Skype video call Los Angeles-Orange
Counties, U.S.A.
November 24, 2009
Audio Link:
http://www.box.net/shared/a696oyks2y
QUESTION: What can you tell us now about
the influence of the oneness blessing on
a person? Is it up to the individual how
much they actually will be able to
maintain contact with the indwelling
Divine? What is the best thing we can do
to help our blessing receivers?
BHAGAVAN:
The blessing essentially acts on the
brain. It basically activates what we
call the left temporal lobe
and tries to reduce the
activity in what we call parietal lobes.
So, it's a neurobiological phenomenon
induced by the blessing. The result is
you can get in touch with the indweller
because of these changes and you can get
in touch with what we call the Divine or
the transpersonal, whatever word you'd
like to use. So it takes you to the
other dimension. That is the purpose of
the blessing. The blessing is more like
a vehicle which carries you to another
realm. Thereafter you have to deal with
the indweller or the transpersonal
realm. The indweller himself or herself
is only in the transpersonal realm.
So, to connect to the transpersonal
realm the brain must undergo some
changes. So, the deeksha induces a
neurobiological phenomenon by which that
happens. The power of the blessing
depends on the one who is giving the
blessing, as also the one who is
receiving the blessing. Both are
involved in it, and the later
connections with the indweller would
depend how much the one who had received
the blessing is working upon himself.
Your role would be to help him work on
himself. That's why you must work as
groups. The group must help the other
to work on himself or herself. If you
keep working on yourself, then what
happens is you get closer and closer to
the indweller. It can become so close
that the indweller can become almost
physical. You can possibly even touch
the indweller. It can even come out and
you can even touch the indweller. You
can go to that extent.
There are people who have this physical
indweller, the indweller coming out and
even chatting with them. It's not a
rare phenomenon. It's quite well known
in India, in many parts, and even some
westerners I know. So it depends on how
much you grow and depending on that
growth would be your relationship with
the indweller.
Let me see, what's the second part of
that question? "How can it help the
receiver?" Yes, how could you help the
receiver is, you have to form groups and
share your lives, share your suffering,
you pain, your joys and the one who is
speaking must be allowed to speak, and
the other must not judgmentally listen
to him; and the next level, he must
report to the other person what is
happening inside him. Suppose the other
person is talking about his fear. Fear
might get triggered in you. Then you
have to tell him, "As I've been
listening to you, fear got triggered in
me." This is how I see things. There
should be a mutual share so not only the
one who is suffering benefits, the one
who is listening will equally benefit.
This is the way you have to form groups.
It's very essential that if we are going
to make 2012 happen, we must form
groups. It is these groups which are
going to bring about the perceptual
shift in the year 2012. Like, for
example, what happening in 1989 set a
chain of events in world history, like
the Berlin wall, the paving away of
communism and what we saw in China and
many, many other events. We don't have
time for those things. So, that set a
new trend for the planet and we think
it's still going on. We're moving in a
new direction after '89.
Similarly, something is going to happen
in 2012 which is going for a new
direction for world events thereafter.
To make those events happen, we have to
form groups and we have to become
powerful blessing givers and move into
different states, higher states of
consciousness. So, this is basically
possible by working on yourself, not
individually, individually as well as a
group. That you must do for yourselves.
I will personally here be guiding you.
My guiding you is Level 3. So that's the
answer to the first question. We move on
to the second question.
QUESTION:Bhagavan,can you tell us about
giving blessings for healing? Some of us
feel that we have taken on the
sufferings of others. Some blessing
givers feel deep sadness while giving
the blessing. How can we maintain our
strength and health so that we can be
actively of service to humanity? As we
continue to merge with the Divine will
our physical bodies get stronger
naturally? Is it possible to take on the
karma of others unintentionally?
BHAGAVAN: Read the question once
again?
QUESTION:Bhagavan,can you tell us about
giving blessings for healing? Some of us
feel that we have taken on the
sufferings of others. Some blessing
givers feel deep sadness while giving
the blessing.
BHAGAVAN: Hold there. So, as
long as you feel it is the Divine which
is healing, no karma will be transferred
to you. But, if you feel someway that
you are involved in the healing, then
certainly karma comes to you. What you
must know is you're merely a vehicle for
those Divine energies to flow into you
and affect the person. If you make the
mistake of thinking that you are the one
who is healing, that is your energies
which are healing, then there is a
possibility of a backlash and that karma
might come to you. The other part of
the question?
QUESTION:How can we maintain our
strength and health so that we can be
actively of service to humanity? As we
continue to merge with the Divine will
our physical bodies get stronger
naturally? Is it possible to take on the
karma of others unintentionally?
BHAGAVAN: A little bit before.
QUESTION:Some blessing givers feel deep
sadness while giving the blessing.
BHAGAVAN: That is very good. If you feel
that sadness and give the blessing it's
going to be very it's going to be very
therapeutic. It's very good and in fact,
it's recommended. [Laughter]
QUESTION: How can we maintain our
strength and health so that we can be
actively of service to humanity?
See, as long as you feel it's the Divine
which is doing it, that you are merely
lending your body, mind and spirit,
there's no problem at all. It has its
own rewards. Because karmically, you
help the person and your good karma bank
account goes on increasing. So, you gain
by helping others, you don't lose
anything as long as you realize it's the
Divine which is doing and not you. If
you think you are doing, your karma
account is going to-the good karma
account will go wrong, the bad karma
account would increase. But, as long as
you think it's the Divine which is
doing, your good karma account goes up,
and you could even cash it for whatever
purpose you want to. So, that's how
you've got to do it.
It all depends upon identification. As
long as you don't identify yourself,
there is no problem. If you identify
there is a problem. But sometimes,
unintentionally things can go wrong.
That's why
as a
precautionary measure, at the end of the
day, you have got to wash your hands and
feet in salt water. That is the best
precaution you could take.
Continue.
QUESTION: As we continue to merge with
the Divine will our physical bodies get
stronger naturally? Is it possible to
take on the karma of others
unintentionally?
BHAGAVAN: Yes, as you keep
merging with the Divine your body
becomes very strong. In fact, two weeks
ago I met an Indian swami who had met me
in 1984, and thereafter many things
happened to him. So, nowadays he gets
buried under the earth for about 92
days. Several tests have been done where
he does not breathe, his heart beat is
zero, and yet he is completely alive
after 92 days. Now, this person who
really happened to be an allopathic
doctor, an ayurvedic doctor and many,
many things, now he is over 70 year old.
He looks as though he's 35, not a single
black hair, no sagging of muscles and he
is over 70. He is worshipped in many
Indian temples if idols are kept and
worshipped. This man is completely with
the Divine and very soon he is going to
enter into what's called Mahasamadhi,
that is he will be buried alive under a
concrete slab and a temple will be built
on him. He says he feels he may be there
for a century or so underground and
blessing people.
There is also the Samadhi of this
earlier guru, many, many years ago. Even
now if you do like this [finger
snapping] he'll answer from inside the
Samadhi. So, those of you who come to
India we could take you there and we
could even show you this. So, these
people who merge so much with the
Divine, it looks like they can even
physically go on forever. So, I myself
could not guess this man's age and then
I thought he must be thirty-five because
there were his disciples who are looking
very old and I thought maybe they had a
young master. Later on I came to know he
is that old.
So, it certainly affects your health and
you do in fact become very strong,
unless that guru has chosen to take on
somebody's karma. Then, of course, like
Ramana Maharishi you may get cancer. So,
it depends how you choose to live.
That's the first question I think.
QUESTION: All, that has played out
recently has triggered judgment,
disappointment, even bitterness at the
way of the world. I'm aware that this
judgment is coming from my own
unresolved pain and this pain is holding
me back from life and freedom and is
hardening my heart.
I have sat with my pain and experienced
it shift into joy. I have had beautiful
spiritual experiences, but the pain of
old conditioning keeps returning.
Bhagavan, what do you suggest I do to
become more trusting and open to life as
it is, and the unknown?
BHAGAVAN: See, you have to keep
on practicing inner integrity until
you're going deep inside yourself and
see what is actually there. If you go
deep inside, you will find there is
nothing but fear, essentially fear.
There is deceit, there is cunning, there
is jealousy and all that muck. It's all
there. You have to confront it, Confront
it means not challenge it, but look at
it, and then do not try to change it
because it cannot be changed because
these are contents of the mind, and the
mind is very, very old. It's as old as
man himself, and that is the structure
of the mind, that cannot be changed. It
is the nature of the mind. For example,
you could take sugar, sugar is
crystalline. It tastes sweet. Its
specific heat is that much. Its specific
variety is that much. You can't do
anything about it. You take salt; it has
its own qualities.
So, the human mind has evolved over
millions of years into what it is today.
But, the basic structure itself has not
changed very much. Fear is there, it
was there for ancient man, it is there
today. Jealousy was there, it is there.
Anger was there, it is there. Desire
was there, it is there. But, the objects
have changed. Probably earlier man had
fear for the tiger, or the lion, or some
wild beast, or the fear of hunger.
Today's man has fear of the share market
and what's happening to the economy.
Somebody would indeed feel jealously
about somebody's spear. Now, you could
feel jealousy about somebody's car. So,
essentially the structure has not
changed and it has also genetically been
designed that way. So, fighting to
change that would be foolhardy.
So, if there is a problem with you, like
for example you live on a street where
there is the mafia, or something like
that. There is no way you could get out
of that street and the mafia will not
leave. So, what is the best way to
handle the situation?
Could you tell what is the best way to
handle the situation? The mafia will not
go and you cannot leave that place. So,
what do you do? The best way would be
both to go to the mafia, to stand up to
the mafia. Take guys a pack of sweets
to him, some gifts to him, maybe embrace
him and praise him. Then the mafia
would say, "Ok, you do whatever you
want. I won't trouble you." You are now
a friend of the mafia.
Something similar must happen here as
you cannot change all these things.
Look, it is not you, it is there in you
but you are not that. It will remain so,
whether you are enlightened or not, it
will remain so. The only difference is
the enlightened man is not playing with
it, he is not trying to change it, he
not's feeling bad about it. It just
remains. So, once you see it is there,
it is there in everybody because it is
the one mind.
Let us say someone is having a H1N1
problem. So, it's not your H1N1 or
somebody's H1N1. It is H1N1, that's all.
It is swine flu. It's not your swine
flu or his swine flu. You can't have
ownership over it. Similarly, you can't
have ownership over your mind and its
qualities. It is the human mind. Of
course, if the brain undergoes some
change, maybe things will change. Maybe
the future man will be very different.
But, as of now, that is operating,
genetically programmed, that is how it
will function.
So, there will be a negative side to
you, which you are all the time masking
because you can't exhibit it in public.
There are terrible things going on
inside because people don't know what
would happen. So, there is this negative
side, you've got to accept it and not
say it is bad or good. It is there,
that's all. You've got to take a neutral
stand. If you say, ok, it's very good,
or something's wrong with it; you could
say it's very bad. That also is not
alright. It is there. You cannot do
anything about it. Because then you
realize change is impossible. Now, when
change is impossible what do you do?
You just keep quiet and keeping quiet is
the solution.
So, for this to happen, you must first
probe; through probing how do you know
what's inside there? So, bravely, go
ahead. The blessing will help you to go
inside, see a lot of things which you've
never imagined before. This is what all
the great ones have done. Be it a
Buddha, or a Christ. They have done
this. They have gone inside. They have
seen what is there and they've said, let
it be so. When you say, let it be so.
You become free of it. It is there, but
you're free of it.
This you should practice. You'll see
tremendous changes happening to you,
most of all conflict will slowly cease.
As conflict ceases, slowly something
will happen. You'll begin to feel
connected and then when you begin to
feel connected you'll find that thought
subsides, and that which thought cannot
touch will start expressing itself.
Because that which will come in cannot
be touched by thought because it's not a
concept, it is not a belief, it is not a
view. It is not even an experience the
mind always experiences, no. It is
something very living. What you call the
present. It's very, very living. That
would kick in. That would come in of its
own and that is the benediction we are
talking about.
To get there you have to move step by
step: go inside, discover, accept, love.
It's an automatic sequence. It does not
require great time, energy and effort.
Only the first phase takes time, energy
and effort; and if you use the blessing
is gets quite fast. Thereafter, no time
is required, no energy is required, no
effort is required. But suppose there is
a snake in the hall where you are and
then all of you are jumping in great
fear. Then, suddenly somebody brings a
torch and you discover it's not a snake,
it's a rope. Fear has disappeared
instantaneously. It has not taken time,
it has not taken energy, it has not
taken effort. You saw and you are free.
To see is to be free.
It does not take any of these things.
But, the whole trouble is getting a
torchlight, and putting a torchlight,
and seeing what is there. That is the
effort that is required on your part.
Once that is done, slowly you'll find
something very remarkable happens. First
you feel there is a peace. Then you
discover conflict is absent. Nothing has
changed. Your wife is still nagging
you, your husband is still bothering
you, your son is disobeying you, you
have problems with your friends. But
still, those things have not changed,
but it is no more affecting you. You
simply take them in your stride, and
even that is giving you joy.
Little by little you find even the other
is slowly changing and when that happens
thought ...thought is the mischief maker
because thought is measurement. It is
all the time measuring things and
because it is measuring things, the
beauty is lost. Reality is lost. So,
thought subsides and reality comes into
focus. Along with reality comes
something which I would now like to talk
about.
You're going to discover it for
yourself. I'll simply call it the
benediction. It is there. So, it's like
a sequence, naturally happens, and I
hope that all of you can there, latest
by 2012 when you could make a big impact
on the planet, helping a lot of people.
So, we'll go through all these things at
a deeper level in the subsequent Skype
sessions. The third question now.
QUESTION: Bhagavan, is there an
opportunity for us to become trainers,
ourselves? How would we do that?
BHAGAVAN: If you want to become a
trainer, you should have attended a
Level 1 and Level 2, and send in an
application here supported by ten other
trainers. Then you could come to India
here, we will train you and initiate you
into initiating others. Thereafter, you
could initiate others to becoming
blessing givers. So, all that is
required is you have to finish a Level 1
and Level 2. If you have not done it,
you will come and do it in India because
we will no more be doing Level 1 and
Level 2 in Italy or in Fiji. If anything
is going to go on there, they are not
our courses. So, you could come to India
and it India it has been made quite
cheap now. You could come to take a
Level 1 and Level 2 and give in an
application supported by ten other
trainers. That means you have been
recommended and then we will train you
and will also initiate you in order that
you could initiate others. And these
trainers are the ones who must build the
blessing givers around them as a group
for the final 2012 action. That's the
answer for that question. Anyway left?
QUESTION: Bhagavan, we are so happy and
excited about your plans for the
courses. We are delighted to be able to
see you and speak with you this way. We
just want to let you know how much we
love you! Thank you so much!
BHAGAVAN: There will be no more
Oneness courses outside India. Whatever
courses will happen only in India. The
courses will be completely free of
charge. You will be charged only for
board and lodge, internal transport and
laundry. That's all. So, courses are
free. I, myself, will be personally
interacting with you. There will be no
barriers between you and me. There will
be nobody standing in between. There
will be direct interaction and you'll be
trained to become trainers whereby
you'll conduct courses in your own
countries, and initiate people on your
own, and then you get ready for 2012.
2012, we are all getting ready for 2012.
That's the key thing. So, there we are
going to do our best to affect human
perception. Of course, we are not the
only group. Many groups are doing this
kind of thing, whatever they believe is
their vision. We'll do whatever is ours.
Ours is to stop this alienation between
one human being and another. One human
being must feel very close to another.
Be it his wife, a husband, son, or any
other stranger, you must feel very close
to him, you must feel connected, at
oneness. You start with inner oneness
and we'll end with planetary, and then
we'll go beyond to the transpersonal,
which is the Divine. Finally, you must
feel that you are one with the Divine.
You and the Divine are not separate. The
Divine is your own higher self, and you
are alienated from that. It's not
something out there into which you have
to merge. No, it is there already in
you. You are the Divine, but you feel
the sense of separation, and that should
go. So, that's why I'm telling, as far
as we are concerned here in oneness, I
am God, you are God, the ant is God, the
elephant is God. God has become all
this. The one who is having AIDS is also
God. He is God who is having AIDS. The
one who is having H1N1 is God who is
having H1N1. So, when you are helping
him you are help God, and since all are
God, you are helping God only.
This would become a living experience
for you, not a theory, not a concept,
not a belief. Maybe if you are a strong
Christian, maybe you might abhor the
idea of becoming one with God. That's
personal. Then you can stop, becoming
one with God. You can halt somewhere, or
if you're a Muslim and that forbids you,
then you should not do it. But, there
are others who have no problems. In
fact, it's a fact, you will see that you
are already that God.
The whole purpose here is to separate
that illusion. So, the only problem with
you is, you have this illusion and this
illusion we want to tear down. Once we
tear it down you will discover for
yourself as I said, truth is still
untruth as long as it is not your
truth. It'll become your truth, that's
all there is to it. You're all going to
become God. That is the purpose of this
world. That is the oneness, the
ultimate oneness. We start with inner
oneness. We stop the conflict inside, we
start there, and we end up finally
becoming God, Himself.
So, we end the session with this. Next
time we will continue. Now, I think we
can meditate for a few minutes.
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