NOTE:
There are some refinements in
instructions for trainers initiating
blessing givers on this broadcast. This
is an update from the original
instructions on November 28 in Italy.
The instructions are in Answer #4.
Watching the video starting at 9:45
minutes into the recording will give the
visual demonstration.
Sri Bhagavan Conference Holland November
30, 2009
http://www.vimeo.com/7892758
Q1: What's your vision about the future
and what role do you see for any of us,
the trainers, the blessing givers and
the organisation of Oneness Holland?
A1: Yes, it is important to understand
that Oneness is a phenomenon which took
birth in the year 1989. The phenomenon
has been growing ever since. Now what is
required is the dissolution of the
organisational structure of Oneness,
which means: people all over the world
must take up the work. People in their
respective countries, the blessing
givers, the trainers must take up this
work. So as the first step, from
December 3rd 2009 after sunrise local
time, the Oneness trainers would
themselves be able to initiate people
into becoming blessing givers after
their course.
They have this two days Oneness
Experience course, that course they
could conduct minus the video but
assimilating the teachings into their
own life and coming from their own
experiences they must expound the
teachings and then give a special
initiation which we will be teaching you
and then and there they will become
blessing givers. They don't have to go
to Italy or Fiji or India to become
blessing givers. That is the first step.
Then progressively we would like the
trainers themselves to conduct other
courses like Level 1 and Level 2, except
Level 3. All other courses they should
gradually learn to conduct themselves in
their own countries. Level 3 alone would
be an interaction between me and you,
where I'm talking to you about spiritual
matters, that is Level 3. That will go
up until 2012 or at last 2014,
thereafter that too will stop.
So your role now is to have more
trainers so that you could produce more
blessing givers in the year 2010 and 11.
2012 is the year of action, that is the
most crucial year when we will be
getting into the process. In 2012 groups
of blessing givers, small, medium, big
could be formed all over Holland. And
these people they must start giving
deekshas to each other in a very special
way which we will teach you in the year
2012, for example in the month January
there could be 4 such events, that you
will be giving blessings to yourselves;
I will be participating in that. It
would be stepped up in the month of
February, March, April and in December
2012 every day I will be meeting you and
every day you will be giving blessings
to each other. That is the month of
December 2012, when that happens
collectively, not individually,
collectively, you will be moving into
higher states of consciousness.
Whatever kind of consciousness you have
been attracted to, or you have been
desired, for example Christians would
enter Christ consciousness, Buddhists
Buddhist consciousness, Hindus Hindu
consciousness and Muslims Islamic
consciousness. These will not be the
same, they will be very different from
each other. That is why this movement is
not called Sameness, it is called
Oneness. But the strangest fact is
though the Christian would move to
Christ consciousness and a Buddhists
would go to Buddha consciousness or a
Muslim Islamic consciousness their
experiences come together as one.
Though they experience very different
they will come together as one. So 2012
December this should happen, 2013 and
2014 we may hanging on to stabilize
things. After 2014 Oneness is completely
dissolved and all of us we go away to
lead our simple, anonymous lives only
to be forgotten. Because we do not want
to perpetuate ourselves. If that happens
Oneness will be destroyed. Oneness is
not a concept, it is not a belief, it is
a living experience. It should not
express by thought or by people. So we
live on and fade away, that is our plan
of action. So shall we move on to the
second question now?
Q2: How could we deal with the pain and
insecurity that we feel now because of
the situation in the Oneness
organisation?
A2: This situation has arisen because we
have initiated a process of dissolution,
that is what have led to this kind of
situation and in the coming months and
years we will be speeding up that
dissolution and as we finally completely
will be dissolved, there will be no more
pain what so ever. As long as Oneness
remains an organizational structure this
kind of things will be happening and
this kind of pain will be there. So as
we dissolve ourselves the big .......
disappears so wait for the final
dissolution. The next question please?
Q3: Some Oneness trainers and blessing
givers are still intensely immersed in
getting their own process right. And now
you are telling us that from 2010, Level
1 and Level 2 will be done by the
trainers. How can we realize Oneness so
fast in this condition?
A3: The phenomenon is closely observed
in India and ever since 89 the
phenomenon has been growing and we have
gotten in times is growing by the week
and we believe that in 2010 it will be
very powerful, more powerful in 2011 and
very, very powerful in 2012.
So we believe that things which took a
long time earlier could be done much
faster. We have the experience with
Indians now and we believe that will be
the same also with Westerners and please
don't forget what (name) a great
Buddhist teacher ..........had said :
"It is when the iron bird flies in the
air awakening or enlightenment would
happen in less than 3 minutes. That
could be an exaggeration of course but
the time has come, the iron bird has
been flying there for quit some time
now, so that time has now come.
The things are moving dramatically
faster, but that needs decentralization
and dissolving of structures. What is
holding back the phenomenon is the
courses and the fee structure. When the
courses are reduced and the fees cut
down you'll find the phenomenon be
growing very, very fast. That is the
step we are taking now. For example if
you are to come for a Level 1 to India
it would just cost you 700 dollars. That
is there will be no course fee at all,
you will be only paying for the food,
the accommodation, the laundry and
internal transport. Now the same thing I
belief if you go to Italy I think it
would cost you more than 3000 dollars,
that is what I understand. But here
there are even cheaper things that we
are launching also, it is almost free..
so the money factor is been removed
very, very fast.
And then the structure: you don't have
to come all time to India to learn or to
grow. The trainers could be strongly
trained by us in a very big wave and
they will be able to do a lot of work.
Than Level 3, I will be available to you
thanks to modern technology. You can
ask me spiritual questions and .....to
you directly and we will be meeting here
together. Things have to be hastened, we
have to move very, very fast now
because there are just 2 more years
left, 2010, 2011. In 2012 from January
we have to start acting, so we can't
have to follow structures to go to Italy
or Fiji, pay that much. It is not going
to work..............
and you have to stand on your own feet,
you must become trainer, you must become
teacher, you must become blessing
givers, you must become everything, you
must initiate people. You can't come all
to India, that is never going to happen.
We cannot afford to loose the great
opportunity for mankind ... ..as to
speak. That's the answer to the third
question. I think all the questions are
all over? (gelach) there seems to be
some silence. (gelach)
Onno: Bhagavan, there is a question from
a blessing giver , is it okay if he asks
it?
Answer: O, yes, perfectly okay, go
ahead.
Q4: Harmen, maybe you know him, Harmen,
trainer, Harmen? He asks if it will be
possible for the trainers to initiate
people to be blessing givers in 2009 or
in 2010.
A4: "No in 2009, December 3rd, I told
you, after sunrise you can start
initiating people. Shall I demonstrate
you how it should be done?"
(Yes yes, from the audience). "Yes!"
Bhagavan points and asks: "Do you see
this head" (Laughter from audience and
yes, yes).
"There is a spot called bramasthan , it
is a spot on the middle of the head. You
must have seen small babies , the center
of their head is starting as soft bone
when born, which hardens, that is the
spot So you take your middle fingers,
put them together on that spot.
First relax the person and you be
relaxed.
Put the middle fingers at that point The
other fingers can rest on the skull The
fore fingers must be like this and the
thumbs like this), a bit like a pyramid.
Now invoke that Divine Being which whom
you have contact. If it is Christ you
invoke Christ, if it is a Hindu God you
invoke that Hindu God, if it is Allah
you invoke Allah.
Now the way you should do this is to
pray to Christ or Allah, asking them to
enter this person and to make him into a
Blessing giver. You should repeat that
prayer for three minutes.
If you do not have a connection with
anyone of these Beings then you can
connect to AmmaBhagavan . Whether you
connect or not, you should invoke
AmmaBhagavan, we will come; you do not
need to have a connection with us for
coming but to other Beings you need a
connection. But keep repeating that for
three minutes.
Then gently touch the blessing givers
head with both your hands, just for a
minute or so, then take them out, and
then after 10 or 15 minutes he must go
and give blessings to the others, maybe
five people, 10 people, he must bless
them, and then he must repeat this for
the next few days, and then you'll find
that all this is going through very ,
very beautifully and once he gets this
conviction it will go much, much faster
, and this will be very fast in 2010,
faster in 2011, faster in 2012.
So all trainers in Holland, because we
will be activating something here in
you like a remote, grace will be flowing
through you. So after sunrise in your
country you are going to start it, say
now and here from December 3rd. You
don't have to wait any longer at all. To
become a blessing giver you don't have
to go to Italy or Fiji or India. And
what charges you will fix up is
completely your affair. You will decide
in Holland, nobody will dictate this to
you, nobody will write.
I want to make one request that for
people who can't afford it, it should be
given for free. But technically this can
not be given free because the karmic
cycle must be complete. Therefore the
poor person must at least offer you a
small flower, or a gift, or whatever is
given to him. But if they are middle
class, lower middle class, upper middle
class you can fix your own tariff, it's
up to you. So we don't want to dictate
terms on that. So you can start
straight away December 3rd.
That is the answer to that question.
Onno: Thank you very much Bhagavan. We
are very happy with this, because it
will speed up the process of bringing
Oneness to Holland very fast. Thank you
very much.
Bhagavan: So shall we now meditate for a
few minutes, three minutes.
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