Skype video call San
Diego, California, U.S.A. November
23,2009
Q1: On
the teleconference call with North
America last Sunday you spoke of
physical awareness, internal integrity
and external integrity. Would you
please explain more about external
integrity: its value to our growth, when
we should use it, and how it might
differ from just speaking out what we
are thinking or feeling in any given
moment?
A1: The
external integrity is a very powerful
tool that must be used very carefully.
It is not merely speaking of the truth,
but it is speaking of the truth without
any sense of fear. Now it may not be
possible to do always, in that case we
would not advise you to follow external
truth. But if and when used, it is a
remarkably powerful tool, but quite
dangerous also if you're not prepared
for it.
For
example, I often tell when you're not
enlightened, do not behave like one.
When you're not a Mahatma Ghandi, do not
behave like one. I often say when Ghandi
faced the British bullets, it never
really hit him. And then I say if
someone behaved like Ghandi, the first
bullets would hit him. Because you very
fear will attract the bullet to hit you.
One should not behave like you have
strength and courage when one does not
really have them.
To give
an example in India, there was someone
who came to our courses and learned
about external integrity. But he forgot
the strategic warning we gave that you
should not practice that unless you have
the courage to take it on. And not
merely speaking of the facts, but of the
inner cycle. You must come from what you
have discovered on the inside and then
speak it out. Now this gentleman went
into his boss's office and told him
"Boss, I don't like you." The boss said,
"Fine." Look, you are a crook." The Boss
said, then "Get lost." The man said,"I
know all the corrupt things you have
done." The boss said, "Please stop it."
The man added," I have also been
corrupt. I am also corrupt." The boss
dismissed him from his job on the spot.
The man
questioned a dasa about the teaching.
What kind of teaching are you giving? I
thought there was power in it, and I
lost my job. We gave him the correction.
Power is not truth. It has to come from
the inside, and if you have the courage,
then you must speak it. Truth is a
concept to you. And you must not tell
it. We gave him the corrections and
about four weeks later he got another
job in Dubai and he is doing quite well.
You can
only lift the weight that you can
handle. You must not lift beyond your
capacity. To what extent you can be
truthful without being hurt. If you
cannot take it, you should not do it. If
you can take it, you should do it, and
is must come from inner condition.
There
must be a deep inner conviction If
practiced, it is amazingly powerful,
because the mind stops day dreaming. All
the time playing with concepts,
constructing emotions, constructing
thoughts, constructing feelings. It's a
machine that just cannot be quiet. It's
all the time building up things. A lot
of things you could find it has all been
put together by the mind. There is no
truth to it, not fact in it. When you
practice external integrity, this
mechanism slows down and the mind
becomes very, very quiet. Only if you
have the strength should you practice
external integrity. Otherwise you should
not practice it.
Q2: On a
recent Skype call we heard you say that
setting right relationships with our
parents will strengthen our connection
to the Divine. This caused concern in
some of us because we long to have a
stronger connection to the Divine, and
we have been working on parental
relationships for some time but there
always seems to be deeper layers of
charges to uncover. Could you please
offer some guidance on how we can set
these relationships right at the deepest
level?
A2: To
get closer to the divine, we must set
right what we call the four baskets. the
four stages of growth which happen in
the womb. These are the most critical
and crucial factors. Unless they are set
right, it is difficult to get close to
the divine as a living experience. You
can relate to the divine as a concept,
maybe as a thought structure. But the
divine is something which cannot taught
by thought. It has nothing to do with
the mind. It is a living thing. It
cannot be controlled by space nor time.
Since it is a living experience, it is
always in the present.
If we are
to get there, the mind must be silenced.
When the mind can be silenced One of the
simplest ways to set right things in the
womb, is to set right your relationship
with your parents. If that happens, all
that happened in the womb gets cleaned
up and then the divine walks in to your
life.
One of
the simplest ways to set relationships
right with your parents is to start
experiencing them. Like you go to the
beach and you see the waves in the
ocean, you see the breeze coming in. How
would you experience that? Or you're
eating a nice dish, how do you
experience that? Similarly, let us say
your father is shouting. Even enjoy it
as if it is the roar of the lion. Your
mother is doing something and you should
turn that into something very beautiful.
And you
must begin to experience those things,
those moments that could be painful to
you. You must experience them as though
it's not your mother or your father that
are in charge. They are very beautiful
beings. This is not a difficult
practice. I've seen thousands in India
do this in a month's time. Thereafter
the person has not changed, YOU'VE
changed.
For
example, I had a couple with a very bad
relationship. The lady said that this
man is a drunkard and I want him to
change that. And the man said the lady
is a flirt and wanted to change that.
We told them that we are not in the
business to make a drunkard into a
non-drunkard or a flirt into something
very different. All we can tell you is
that you have to work on yourself. So
you, the flirt have to accept that you
are a flirt. You will love being a
flirt. That is the only thing that is
true about you. And she began to work on
that.
And to
the man, we said accept you are a
drunkard and accept yourself as a
drunkard and love yourself as you are.
Say "I'm a happy drunkard." They were
working on this for about 3 hours and
finally the man completely fell in love
with himself and he did not cease to be
a drunkard. He accepted himself and
loved himself. The lady accepted that
she is a flirt and loved herself.
After
this, the lady accepted the man as a
drunkard and fell in love with him. The
man accepted her as a flirt and fell in
love with her. When this happened, he
ceased to be a drunkard and she ceased
to be a flirt.
This is
how we have to start. There is no using
in complaining about your parents. You
have to start working on yourself.
People have a habit of working on
others. That way you will get nowhere.
You cannot change people. All you can do
is change yourself. The strangest thing
is that if you change, the other
automatically changes. Just wait for
sometime.
An
example: People who come to us from the
U.S. to India who have problems with
their spouse. A lady came and her
husband was back in New York. There were
changes in their relationship without us
having even seen the husband. Because we
are all connected. The only thing you
have to do with your parents is to work
with yourself, because you have not
accepted yourself; you're not falling in
love with yourself. If you do that
you'll start experiencing your parents
and you'll accept them and love them as
they are, not the way you want them to
be. Everything will be set right.
The
moment that happens all that has
happened for you in the womb will be set
right and you will find the divine walks
in as a powerful presence. It's a living
experience. It looks physical, but it is
not so. Many people have achieved this.
Quite effortlessly. Especially simple
people whose lives are not very complex.
They have done it very easily and their
lives are completely transformed. If
technology supports it, we may be able
to share some videos of some very simple
people so you can see how easily the
divine has come into their lives and
their lives are completely transformed.
Q3:
Everyone is so excited about Level 1
coming to the US. When will the
trainers be invited to be with you so
they can receive instruction on teaching
Level 1?
A3:
They'll be invited to India after
March 7 because we have a very
hectic schedule until then. They'll
be invited to India and be trained.
What they will be doing will not be
called a Level 1 or a Level 2. It
will be a new course, a very
powerful course. They will not only
be conducting this course in their
home areas, but they also will be
initiating blessing givers. That is
the change. To become a blessing
giver, you do not have to come to
India and you do not have to go to
Level 1 or Level 2, simply go to the
course taught by the trainer.
Probably to be functional, it could
be May after the trainers are
trained and are ready to get started
offering courses at home.
kindly
provided by Amy Davies, Oneness in the
UK
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