Oneness
New Zealand 12/1/09
The 1st
question is;
Sri
Bhagavan: With recent
developments, we have
seen how, with the best
of intentions and shared
goals, differences can
arise and threaten the
progress of Sri Amma
Bhagavan's beautiful
vision for mankind.
Please can you advise us
what is most important
to have in our hearts
and minds if ever there
should arise some
mischief or negativity
that threatens our
coherence as a group?
There are
a few things we should
not lose sight of. The
first thing is this work
is all about 2012. So we
are only preparing
ourselves for our vision
of 2012. As I have been
repeating 2012 is the
year of the process, so
from January to December
all the blessing givers
will be gathering in
groups and they will be
giving blessings to each
other and I’ll and Amma
will be participating
and they will be raising
their
levels of consciousness,
which in turn will
affect world
consciousness. So when
you raise the
level of consciousness,
whether Christian
consciousness, Buddha
consciousness, Krishna
consciousness or
whatever consciousness
you want, it will not be
the same, but saying it
there will be a oneness
to it, although it will
be very different, we
will all feel one. That
is the oneness we are
talking about and
functioning from this
higher level of
consciousness our
problems will gradually
cease to exist. Most of
our problems are
emerging from the fact
that humanity is
functioning from lower
levels of
consciousness. If you
raise the level of
consciousness most
problems should
disappear. So we should
not lose sight of 2012.
That is the most
important thing
The next
thing is we should not
bring down the
importance of the
blessing. The blessing
is the tool to work to
make it happen. The
Blessing comes from the
Divine, so it is not
that somebody is giving
the blessing, it is
coming from the Divine,
the Divine is trying to
connect up with itself.
So what is most
important is getting
close to the Divine.
With the Divine and the
Divine is our own
higher self it is
not something out there,
it is our own human
nature, but our own
higher self. That is
what we call the Divine
and the blessing is
coming from the higher
self, so that we could
become one. We should
not lose sight of that.
The other
most important thing is
we should learn to
function as groups. It
is not going to be an
awakening for the
individual, it is
awakening for the
collective, groups of
people awakening, who in
turn influence human
consciousness. We should
not lose sight of that.
The other
important thing is right
now the countdown has
begun, that is - this is
a people’s movement.
There is no hierarchy
here, the people must be
empowered. All the power
that is here must be
transferred to the
people – whatever
knowledge is there must
be transferred to the
people. It will become a
people’s movement. There
is no such thing as
Dasas, or Acharyaji’s or
anybody in control. So
the whole organization
must fade away and the
latest date will be
31 March 2014.
Beyond that there should
be no concept called
oneness and even the
name oneness could fade
away... It should
merely be a living
experience in the hearts
of people. Oneness is
not a thought, it is not
an idea, it is not a
concept, in fact it
cannot be grasped by the
human mind it is
something in the mind
that God cannot touch.
It is a living
experience. The name
lives in the hearts of
people. For that to
happen, Amma Bhagavan
must fade away,
Acharyaji’s must fade
away, Dasas must fade
away, everybody must
fade away and the
training should start
now and it must be
completed in 2014. So
all that we are telling
is, let the trainers
themselves initiate
people into becoming
blessing givers in their
own countries. Now if we
do that we cut the whole
chain that is holding
back the phenomenon. The
phenomenon which took
birth in 1989 it had
been unleashed across
the world. For some
reason we could not do
it 1989 because we did
not fully understand the
phenomena at that time.
Now the time has come,
we cannot control it and
should not control it.
So what is controlling
it, is on one hand, the
courses and on the other
hand, the money aspect.
What we need is Blessing
Givers all over the
world. We cannot go on
this way. Everything is
money. It costs a lot of
money. I was not looking
for these things. It
was a great shock to me
as to how expensive it
is. So we have to do
away with money which
means you do it in your
own country. Do it the
way you want to, we give
you the power and still
if you want to come to
India you are
welcome and there will
be no charges for
courses at all. We would
only be charging for the
food, accommodation,
laundry and the internal
transport, e.g. if you
want to come to a Level
1 in India, it will cost
$700 that is all. If you
want to have the course
in our own country you
are most welcome to go
ahead. The people are?
That can happen only if
we fade away, we cannot
hold onto these things.
These are things we must
bear in mind and never
lose sight of 2012 -
this whole work is about
that - this phenomenon
has arisen only for that
purpose. We are helping
the phenomenon to carry
on this mission. The
mission is the global
transformation of human
consciousness.
The 2nd
question is;
Bhagavan
you said, we (the
blessing givers) are
welcome to come to India
and spend time with you.
With whom do we
communicate to organize
this and how do we
communicate directly?
NZ will
be taken care of by a
dasa called Anand. You
could directly get in
touch with him and he
will help you all.
When you
come here, I will not be
able to meet on a
one-to-one basis, but on
an allotted time, all
people could gather I
will be addressing them
and they can ask me
questions. Trainers and
coordinators would be in
a separate group. . I
will see trainers and
coordinators on a
one-to-one basis.
The 3rd
question is;
Bhagavan
you talked about money
and spirituality not
going well together.
Could you please
clarify?
This has
been misunderstood. I am
not against people
making money. In fact I
tell people to make
money because I say that
money making when done
properly is also a
spiritual activity.
If you are a good
carpenter, you are being
spiritual. If you are a
good postman, you are
being spiritual. If you
can make money and help
people with it, that’s
fine.
What I
am saying is spiritual
people, like us, we are
monks should not be
involved in making
money, not the people in
the world; you have to
make money to survive.
But we are monks, we
have taken vows and we
cannot live in a
different way. We should
not make money because
that money would destroy
us. That money would
corrupt us and I’m
talking that we should
fade it away. We should
hand all things to
people; we have so much
to hand over. In the
next year we will work
on that. We should not
endeavor to go around
the world to acclaim
fame. It is not what we
are supposed to do. I’m
not against people
making money if they do
it in a righteous
manner, in a really
focused manner, not in a
harmful manner that is
perfectly fine, in fact
I give blessings to
people to become
wealthy. But we should
not make money because
we are a spiritual
movement.
So now
shall we move into
meditation for a 3
minute blessing. Thank
you Bhagavan.
Of
course we will be
meeting more often -
more like spiritual
questions. When I
talk about spiritual
matters, that is
level 3. When I talk
on worldly matters,
that is no level at
all - you can call
it level 0 -
(everyone was in
laughing).
Spiritual
matter are level 3. More
and more we will go into
spiritual things and I
will be helping you and
of course you can come
to India.
Thank you
Bhagavan - thank you
Bhagavan
Love Love
Love - Thank you
Love to
Amma please, please.
Thank you
Bhagavan for taking the
time - WE LOVE YOU.....