Teleconference with Sri Bhagavan to
North America
December 20, 2009
Doug Bentley was
facilitating the call.
Namaste Bhagavan
Namaste.
Starting with this month,
there is almost 600 new Blessing Givers
throughout North America and Canada. The
Oneness Trainers have been doing a
phenomenal amount of work creating new
blessing givers, Bhagavan. At the
request of the trainers, we’d like to
read the list of new blessing givers by
state.
Arizona 57, Canada 36,
California 94, Colorado 3, Washington DC
26, Florida 57, Idaho 47, Massachusetts
20, Montana 3, North Caroliina 34, Ohio
20, Nevada 1, Oregon 6, Texas 32,
Vermont 7, Washington 21.
Please give blessings to
new blessing givers. A lot of them will
be on the line tonight.
Bhagavan: I’ll give them
all a strong blessing.
Q1: Could you please
offer more clarity about the shift that
will occur in 2012 and how our work with
the Oneness Blessing is helping make
that shift. What will take place? What
will our experiences be? And How will
the rapid changes in our movement help
facilitate that.
2012. There is first
going to be an energy shift. We call
this Pranic energy. In fact the temple
has been built here called the World
Oneness Center to affect these planetary
energies. In fact in ancient times the
pyramids were built across the world to
affect these planetary energies. Objects
like Stonehenge and other ancient
objects were built specifically meant
for the altering of planetary energies.
Similarly, the World Oneness Center or
what we sometimes call the Oneness
Temple has been created to affect these
planetary energies. The first shift will
be in planetary energies.
Following that will be a
rising in the levels of consciousness.
Peoples’ consciousness will reach to
higher levels. This will mean actually
what we call the kundalini rising up in
the human body. That will be higher
levels of consciousness. That will
result in a change of perception. These
changes essentially will surround the
fact that you’ll start losing the sense
of separation. For some people it could
be merely feeling connected. For other
people, it could be you’ll actually feel
you are the other. There will be varying
degrees of change with regard to the
sense of separation.
For some it could be mild. What I call
mild is to feel connected. For some it
could be that great that you would feel
that you are no different from the
other. It could go to that extent. It
could be so deep that when someone is
physically affected--A physical thing
could affect you physically. It can go
to that extent.
Besides this, there will
also be people experiencing higher
states of consciousness, like some could
experience Christ consciousness, Buddha
consciousness or Krishna consciousness
or any kind of consciousness they’ve
been seeking or they have been
conditioned from early childhood. That
would be a change of consciousness.
There are also others who
will discover oneness with the physical
earth also. They will feel very, very
close to the earth There will be a
variety of changes That’s why we’re not
telling sameness. We’re saying oneness.
People will be having very different
experiences. 6 billion or 7 billion on
the planet, it could be That many
experiences and that many states of
consciousness.
What is going to be
strange is that despite the differences
in experience and the state, all will
feel one. You would expect people to
differ, quarrel, disagree or to fight.
That will not happen. A Christian with
his experience and a Muslim with their
experience will strangely become very,
very close. We’ll be moving in that
direction. I will say that the
experience of each one will be unique.
Any two people will not have the same
experience. Nature or what you call God
does not duplicate. Each one is special
and each one is unique. That is what is
going to happen.
The common denominator is
going to be that we going to work as if
we’re one being. That is what is likely
to happen and that is what will have its
own consequences in the external world.
When I’m talking about the Oneness age,
I’m talking about what is going to
happen in the inner world. When I talk
of the Golden Age, I’m talking about
what will happen in the external world.
The Inner changes will
happen first and that will lead to
certain external changes. People will be
sharing whatever they got with each
other, they will be more careful about
the environment. they will be more kind
and protective with the animals. All
this will be happening in the external
world as a consequence of the changes in
the inner world. So, we can expect these
things to happen probably sometime
towards the end of 2011. We’ll probably
get a few samples in early October and
November, December of 2011. It will go
full speed from January, 2012 and by
December 2012 we will be able to see a
lot for ourselves. This in short will be
the changes that will be happening.
Along with that we will
also expect environmental changes as
human consciousness changes. We might be
able to sort out some of the
environmental issues too. On the one
hand, we have to move on the physical
front and with the inner change also
will bring about environmental changes.
Besides that, our thought
structures also will start melting down.
The thought structures which have been
built up for thousands of years. The
will sort of be breaking down. In other
words, you will not be troubled so much
by thought, negative thoughts and
emotions. They too will start slowly
decreasing. One should not think it’s
all over in 2012. It keeps growing and
there’s no end to that growth. So we can
be evolving more and more and more. That
is not so important for us. What’s
important is that we bring about these
changes in 20112. We cannot take it for
granted.
We have got to work for
it. The energies are there, but we have
to make use of the energies to bring
about the shift. If we just sit idle
thinking “Okay there may be some change
there is no problem, there is nothing
more for me to do.” Nothing is going to
happen. We have got to make use of that.
This is where the blessing givers come
in. What we need urgently is lots more
trainers, a huge number more of trainers
and we have to produce huge numbers of
blessing givers.
The blessing givers’ main
role is by helping others is to raise
their levels of consciousness. Because
blessing givers have to give blessings
to each other in the year 2012. You have
to form groups, I suggest a minimum
group of 25 people. Ideal to have 50 or
even 100 and in some cases you may have
as many as 300 if they can be
cooperative. Now, what we have to do in
the year 2012, is you have to form some
kind of mandala formation and we’ll
teach you how to give blessings to each
other. Here’s the situation where a
blessing giver gives a blessing to
another blessing giver. It is going on
between them.
These groups will begin
to move to another level. When you do
that, something very strange is going to
happen. It is not something we are
speculating or we are going to try out.
We’ve tried all these things and it
works very beautifully. Everything is
ready. Not only that, in 2012 is not
something in your imagination or
something we are ?? about. We have some
special groups in India. Probably when
you come to India, we can take you and
show you what’s happening. Actually,
people are moving into 2012. It’s
happening right now. We find that It
happens between 6 hours or 3 days. It’s
that fast. We hope that you could watch
it, and learn something and it’s
possible you could use at home. Here,
we actually notice that the moment of
transition is less than 3 minutes. What
the ancient teacher called...
(Padmasambhava who took Buddhism from)
...India into Ancient Tibet. He had
made the remark, that when the iron
birds fly in the air. man would make it
in less than 3 minutes. The iron birds
have been flying now for quite some
time. We think possibly the time has
come. Because we are actually seeing
this happen. That is what we have all
this the confidence.
The question is doing for
a small group is one thing, and doing
for entire planet is something totally
different. This requires LARGE numbers
of blessing givers, especially now since
we have lost very valuable time. While
Oneness is a phenomenon, we also believe
that 2012 is itself a phenomenon and a
lot of people are working for 2012.
It’s not just our phenomenon, there
are other phenomenon going on also. The
sad thing is that many of them have died
already. They died a year after
inception - some after 2 years, 3 years,
some after10 years.
As these things happened,
also, the opposite was produced. Like,
you have the front, you have the back,
you have the top, you have the bottom.
So whenever we move in one direction,
like matter and anti-matter, the moment
you try to bring about order, disorder
too is simultaneously created. If the
disorder is not much, then of course we
can have a higher order. If the disorder
crosses a point, then it could become
very dangerous and the whole thing could
be revert back to disorder.
Now, we have a situation
here, most of you know the recent crisis
in the Movement. There is a certain
amount of disorder and if the disorder
continues to grow, basically its
function will be to destroy faith.
Faith in 2012, faith in the divine, and
faith in the blessing. If that happens,
we could still lose out. The possibility
is there. I have seen many such
movements do so in the last twenty years
or so. That’s why the only way is that
order should grow faster than disorder
which means more trainers and more
blessing givers.
In fact, I’ve been
wanting this to happen for all these
years. But it could not happen. But now
I see it is beginning to happen. But,
this could be our last chance. So, I’m
so happy to hear these figures about how
the blessing givers have grown in
numbers the last few weeks. If we
continue in this way, I think we’ll have
enough Oneness ??. America is a big
country and we need a huge number of
trainers and vast numbers of blessing
givers. If we keep up this pace, I think
we should be ready by 2012.
The crucial role is going
to be played by the blessing givers and
of course the trainers have got to
produce them. And that blessing is
nothing but the divine working through
you. Unless there is divine
intervention, we cannot get there. It’s
next to impossible. Because it involves
lots of transformation that only the
Divine could bring about. Unless you
open up to the divine for 2010 and
2011. We’ll be speaking more to you and
we’ll be guiding you more in order to
open up more connections at a deeper
contact with the divine. If the divine
comes through the blessing is going to
bring about the changes in all the
blessing givers which in turn will bring
about the change in human consciousness.
It’s actually the work of the divine.
We’re just helping out. You’re probably
some kind of a catalyst. The divine has
to make use of these energies to bring
about this change. We just have to help
out. So that is in brief the answer to
the first question.
Q2: Not a question but
many of the blessing givers would like
to ask you to to give them what you feel
is best in a teaching for this month to
deepen their state and help them grow in
whatever way.
I spoke with Mexico
yesterday and Sweden and Italy today.
What I notice was there seems to be a
misunderstanding about the teachings.
They have gone through Level 1 and Level
2. From the way they’re asking the
questions, I could clearly see they’ve
misunderstood the teachings. Now the
oneness teaching is actually a very,
very simple teaching.
What you need to understand is that If
it sounds complex, there is some
misunderstanding about the teaching. And
then if you understand that you have to
put in some effort, then again, you have
misunderstood the teaching. By saying no
effort, we do not mean indifference at
all. This should not be mistaken for
indifference.
Let us see what is it we
are saying. Basically we could put the
entire oneness teaching into one word,
That is AWARENESS. So, very often we are
getting questions like saying, “Look I
know I have ugliness, I have jealousy, I
have no love, I have anger, I have
violence and I am trying to experience
suffering and now it’s not happening and
when is it I’m going to change and I
find that I am helpless.”
So we get these kind of
questions. What is most important to
understand in oneness is the content of
your mind is NOT AT ALL important. It
could be anything. It could be violence,
non-violence, anger, hatred, jealousy
frustration, fear, what not. All that
whole range of thoughts, feelings and
emotions. We’re just not concerned about
them. Because we are not trying to
change at all. There is no effort to
change because we cannot change. We
cannot change because these are the
properties of the human mind which is
very ancient and there is only one mind.
What is it we’re trying
to do? What is this change we’re talking
about? On the one hand, we say no change
and on the other hand, we still do seem
to talk about some sort of change. All
that we are talking about is please
become intensely aware of what is going
on. That’s all. There is nothing else
you could do. There is nothing else you
should do. That is why we’re talking
about it as effortless effort.
The only effort is
slightly becoming aware of what is going
on and then saying. “Okay. Let me become
aware.” That’s all.
Then, as you try to
become aware, you will realize it’s next
to impossible. It’s that difficult to
start with. That’s when you throw in the
towel and say “Oh my God it is not
possible.” That is the time, we say, you
better surrender. This surrender is not
some kind of slavish surrender. It’s
just the realization that you cannot do
anything and nothing is happening. It’s
then that you invoke the divine through
a blessing. Then the blessing will take
you where you should go. And where do
you go? You go nowhere because there is
nowhere to go in the first place. You
only become more and more aware of what
is going on.
And the teaching says
that first step, the last step. This
does not mean that after you have taken
the first step, you are going to go
somewhere. You are not going to go
anywhere at all for the simple reason
there is nowhere to go. So what’s the
first step? The first step is awareness.
What’s the last step? Awareness. So what
is there? There is only awareness.
Awareness is the be all and end all of
all things. Please understand that
awareness is not going to take you
anywhere. It is not going to free you of
jealousy. Understand that awareness is
not going to free you from anger. It’s
not going to make you into a saint. No,
not at all Awareness will only be giving
you freedom with jealousy, Freedom with
anger, freedom with hatred. You will
stop tampering with them and you will
stop trying to change them. What is in
the beginning is awareness. What is in
the middle is awareness. What is in the
end is awareness. When you are aware,
you are fully awake, When you are awake,
you are living and no more existing.
Right now you are in the
state of day dreaming. All the while,
you are caught up in this conflict the
thought is producing. You are somewhere
and you’re trying to get somewhere. That
is the movement of thought. You are
engaged in this and you are caught up in
that. That is why you do not live, but
you are merely existing. This is the
situation which is going to change in
the year 2012. Even before that it is
going to happen to lots of people if you
correctly understand the teachings.
So I’ll repeat, you are
not going anywhere. You are not going to
change anything. There is nothing you
can change. All that we’re expecting
from you is please become intensely
aware of what is going on. It’s a
beautiful movie that you could enjoy.
There is no better movie than that. And
no better book you can read than that.
You cannot read it as long as there is
no awareness. To be aware is all there
is. To be aware is to have the presence
in you. As your awareness deepens, the
presence deepens. And there comes a
point when you are so intensely aware
that the presence is almost completely
there. The presence is what you call
God. At that point you become God. You
and the presence are totally one. You,
the awareness and the presence will all
completely become one. That’s when you
see for yourself that you are God. We
are trying to get there.
So, I hope that from this
moment onwards, you will just see what
is going on. Don’t try to do anything to
it. There is nothing you can do to it.
It’s just there. That is the truth. That
is inner integrity. That is being
authentic. Don’t be indifferent to It,
please, but be intensely aware of it.
That’s all you have to do. That is the
oneness teaching. That’s the most
fundamental teaching. Other teachings
are mainly supportive of it. Like saying
the first step is like the last step.
Experience it. When you try to
experience it, there is no experiencing
at all. When you’re aware, experience
is automatically taking place. You are
experiencing reality as it is. What we
are merely trying to describe, but then
you try to put an effort, “Okay, I must
now experience suffering. All right, I
must experience reality is at is. All
right I’ll be a better human being.”
There is no such thing as a better human
being or a lower human being.
Out of this awareness
action arises spontaneously. That is
what we call action. Everything else you
may call action, but it is merely
activity. This action -- some may call
it who are not awakened good action and
some may call it bad action, right
action or wrong action. For someone who
is awakened, it is just action. For
him, it is perfect action. This arises
from complete awareness.
I would like you to start
contemplating on what I have just now
spoken for the following month and let
us see what your experiences are. From
that, I’ll start proceeding further.
These interactions with you is what we
call Level 3. I’ll give you more
clarification after the teachings. I’ll
give you some deeper insights, the power
to give you a blessing. I will meditate
with you, I will take on your questions.
All this comes with Level 3. And level 3
you can attend or come to level 2, or
you could come to level 1, or merely
the Oneness Experience course, or even
for a new person if you are invited, you
are most welcome to come. Others can go
back to Level 2 or to Level 1 or Oneness
Experience to get a better
understanding. But all are welcome for
this.
That is the message I
would like to communicate to you after
hearing the questions from Mexico,
Sweden, and Italy. I thought this was
very important to communicate with you.
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