Bhagavan
call to Forest Row, UK
17th January
2010
Q: We have seen the whole
world respond as one family to
the earthquake in
Haiti. What can we do as
Deeksha givers to help in this
and other situations like it?
Bhagavan:
What you could do is have the
map and pictures of ........ and
place them on and give the
blessing on the picture.
Similarly you will find they
will be given some sort of
solace .... they might very well
come out of their traumas.
We have done this in the case of
Gujarat in India and we had very
good results. If you do that it
will not only remove the trauma
but it could also result in
their getting material health.
Although you are far removed
from Haiti you could still do
it. A little practice and you'll
find it is really working very
well.
The only thing is there could be
this mental barrier as to how
could this happen. But if you go
ahead and do it you will see it
is in fact happening. That is
how you could help from here.
Q: Now that we are rapidly
increasing the number of Deeksha
Givers, how can we increase the
interest in receiving Deeksha
beyond talking to our friends?
By giving public talks, writing
articles in the media...?
Bhagavan:
[a sound prevented hearing the
first part...]
... enlightenment if it is going
to happen at all. But then we
have people who have already
made it before 2012. The
majority of them are Indians and
do not speak English, that is
the problem. We are hoping to
get some people who could speal
English. But then there are also
westerners but fortunately two
days ago we came across a
westerner who is fully awakened,
he is from Holland, and in a day
or two we will be uploading this
interview on our website. In due
course we will upload more and
more people who have fully made
it.
Now, listening to these people
will be of immense help, not
only in one's growth, but the
message to the people is that it
is indeed possible to become
awakened and enlightened. I
think it's now actually started
now. Things will slowly begin to
accelerate. Very soon we will
have more and more people. The
one concrete example we have
here who happened to come here
and have managed to record him -
he's from Holland.
I think probably this sort of
interview will be shown on
television in your countries and
on our website, maybe people
should go and interview him and
write articles. When they come
across a normal westerner who is
awakened I think we will find
interest will automatically
grow. And the phenomenon will
also speed up. I think we are
getting very, very close to the
turning point.
Maybe tomorrow of the day after
you'll be able to see it on our
website.
Q: Can you tell us his name?
Bhagavan: His name is Edwin,
from Holland. He is a pilot.
Q: In a time of rapid
change such as we are seeing
already as we move towards 2012,
what plans if any should we make
for the time after 2012? What
about food and other daily
essentials? So both before, at
that time and after 2012.
Bhagavan: After 2012 we'll talk
about then but not before that.
Things will be dramatically
different.
2012 does not represent any
particular year as such. The 23
years from '89 to 2012, it's a
23 year period. Though we often
refer to it as 2012, it's
actually 23 years. And already a
lot of calamities have happened.
It's not as though something is
going to especially happen.
We've already had enough
calamities in the last 21 years
or so. We are right through 2012
now. That particular year only
represents the closure of what
is happening. So we are in the
midst of the crisis right now,
starting with '89.
Both the positive and the
negative are happening. We call
this two ages running
concurrently - we also call it
the sunjavella, which means
between sunrise and sunset. For
one age it is sunset for the
other it is sunrise, an
intervening period. Both running
parallel. So we are in the midst
of 2012. What has happened in
Haiti is part of 2012.
We have taken the questions fast
so we can have a longer
meditation today, probably for
six minutes. We have to increase
the duration of our meditation
if we are going to become
awakened.
Q: Thank you Bhagavan
Bhagavan: So we'll go for longer
and deeper meditation.
Q: Thank you.