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Skype Broadcast with
Olten, Switzerland Feb. 28,
2010
http://vimeo.com/9832022
MP3 link for audio listening:
http://www.box.net/shared/47930jm207
Bhagavan:
Namaste.
Namaste, Bhagavan. Namaste. So nice to
see you again! We are very happy,
Bhagavan. Thank you for taking time with
us. Today we are 44 people in the room
and again we appreciate your time so we
will do the translations later. May I
start with the first question?
Bhagavan:
Yes yes, go ahead.
Q 1) Dear Bhagavan, again and again you
have pointed out the importance of
setting right the relationship with
parents for strengthening the bond with
the Divine. When parents have passed
away or when there is no way to meet
them, you had told in earlier skypes
that we would have to say sorry for all
the incidents where we had hurt them and
express our gratitude for all the good
things they did for us. And you have
said: What we say to them has to be done
with feeling from the bottom of our
heart.
Regarding this we have the question:
What to do when I canīt do it with a
real feeling, when it is only my head
who says those words like sorry and
gratitude because I know it is THAT
important?
Bhagavan:
You have to stay in the truth that you
do not have feelings, that you do not
have emotions, that you are not able to
connect with your parents.
That is the truth. So we would not say
try to generate those feelings or
emotions - that is untruth. Stay in the
truth and accept it. Say "Yes, I am not
able to do it." That should work up to
50%. The remaining 50% - AmmaBhagavan
have to work and set it right. Because
if you have a poor relationship with
your Mom or Dad, then - because we have
to work for your awakening and solve
some of your problems - we find it
difficult. Because you would not relate
to us also, because you are not relating
to them. And we need to have some kind
of relationship for us to really work on
you. And thatīs where the problem is.
But if you stay in the thruth - that
there is all there is to it, we somehow
try to use more force and knock you
down. In which case I think we have to
knock you down.
Get prepared to getting knocked down.
Thank you for this answer, Bhagavan.
The second question is:
Q 2) Dear Bhagavan, since our last skype
with you one month ago many of us can
feel how much stronger their blessings
have become and some of us notice that
there is growing "success" as very fast
and good results are following after
sometimesjust one deeksha
sometimes.Thereby some of us see how
haughtiness and ego is inflating. Is it
enough to see that and to be aware of it
or what do you recommend to us?
Bhagavan:
Yes - It is enough if you could see that
you are becoming haughty, egoistic and
you are craving for significance. If you
have that awareness - it is enough. But
then it could help you up to a point,
but if it comes to awakening, no matter
what you do, itīs going to be a problem.
You must SEE so powerfully that you
cease to be egoistic, cease to be
craving for significance and cease to be
haughty. If you want to be awakened! And
awakening is happening very rapidly now.
It is almost happening in every country
now. And by every day we are getting
more and more awakend people, itīs
moving very fast and I hope that soon
Switzerland too would have its own
awakend people. We...(Bhagavan breaks
off the sentence, because of the
laughter in the audience) ... You
could start moving very, very fast! So,
I hope many of you or almost all of you
could become awakend soon. Because you
seem to be such free people, you seem to
be liberated - I do not know from what
youīre liberated, but you seem to be
liberated and quite free. So I expect
that most of you should become awakend
quite soon.
Thank you for this beautiful answer,
Bhagavan.
Our third question is:
Q 3) Dear Bhagavan, how much do you
value the way we nourish ourselves on
our spiritual path: for example meat,
alcohol, chocolate - which is important
in Switzerland - tobacco etc. And how
does avoiding those treats fit into the
concept of being authentically if we are
still enjoying it in a moderate way?
Bhagavan: I cannot judge you and I can
never stop loving you. So what I would
be doing is I`ll be working harder.
Cause, let us say, if you're smoking and
tobacco and the deeksha don`t get long
very well, raw tobacco is fine, but not
processed tobacco. It produces that
different kind of energy the sort of
contravenes the deeksha. It becomes a
problem, so also alcohol, and meat
beyond the point. They become
problematic. So, if in moderation, well,
I think we should be able to handle it.
But whatever it is, we are so focussed
on awakening you, come what may, we will
not let go of you. But if you are too
stubborn--of course if you're enjoying
it, it will be authentic, no problem -in
moderation, I said, we use a hammer.
That is an access power in which case
you will be knocked down. And I hope you
don't mind being knocked down because
you want to be awakened.
On the other hand, if you cooperate you
make our job a lot easier and you, too,
have a smoother process. Because I'm
sure, all of you are serious about
getting awakened and getting rid of the
mind which has been making use of your
life for survival, as I look at you, all
that I could see is, this mind is
nothing but a donkey, is been carried by
you on your shoulders, strong donkey, he
is not letting go of you, nor are you
letting go of the donkey. And its
massive head is resting on your head,
there`s a huge baggage also on his back.
The baggage is the answers you have
gathered through your life by reading
several books and other things and
because you are inside the mind or
living inside the mind, you have
questions like: what is the purpose of
life and is there a God or not? The
answer is no. How the universe is coming
to be? The answer is yes. Who made the
thought because it's there? You are such
a mess. Endess questions, endless
answers. Now if somebody were drinking
apple juice he would not ask you, how
does it taste then, because he is
drinking it.
Since you do not live life, you have
all these questions. And once you
become awakened, you come out of the
mind and what is there is pure
consciousness, which is witnessing it
and you start living.
Anything and everything is just joyous.
Just drinking water or going for a walk
or looking at your wife or child or at
work everything`s nothing but joy.
Because you are experiencing for the
first time, you starting experiencing
life. Right now you have not experienced
anything except when you are a child and
in some rare moments you have
experienced it, because the mind does
not allow you to experience anything.
The moment anything is seen, heard,
smelled or touched--any of the senses
are bringing any input, the mind quickly
names it. Once it is named, the
commentary starts, non stop commentary
goes on. You call it a tree, definitely
you call it a tree. Tree and then is it
an apple tree or a mango tree or a
coconut tree? All kind of comments,
endless, the experience is immediately
destroyed. So, you are not experiencing
life. That's why you are taking alcohol,
you are taking chocolates, you are
eating all those things, because you are
not experiencing life. And it's
terrible. But I can see, you are very
intelligent, eating a little meat and
some nice chocolate and some drinks and
sometimes ..?..... the show. I would not
be so cruel and tell you: "Leave all
this". I only say, the state of managing
it is in proportion so that I could help
the donkey to come down. How long are
you going to carry this donkey?
Miserable is an existence and the
saddest thing is you do not even know
you are miserable. You don't even know
you are suffering, the jail is so
comfortable, the jail of the mind. So,
if you like to bring - and I'm sure you
want to bring down the donkey - and once
you come down, there is no question
there.
There will be pure consciousness, there
is nobody there to ask questions,
because he is gone. And the questioners
are gone, the questions, too, are gone.
If the questions are gone, your answers,
too, are gone. All the garbage which you
have been gathering over the years in
..?...the books do all go away. It's no
use, this is not a real thing - only
concepts and ) beliefs. All that is
dumped, you are free of that, you're
free of the donkey and you start riding
the donkey. Let's say, you are in
Switzerland and you come to India, there
of course you will see you carry a huge
donkey on your head, and the donkey came
with baggage, and in India we will bring
the donkey down, pull the baggage off
and you will fly back to Switzerland on
the donkey. ( Big laughter in the
audience. )
But things are going very, very fast
now. I don`t think we have to wait until
2012 or 2011 - maybe at the end of this
year most of you could be awakened.
Every day I meeting people who are
awakened: Brazilians, Americans,
Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, all kinds
of people, dramatically getting awakened
very very fast. So Swiss people could
also be awakened very very soon.
Thank you for this clarification,
Bhagavan.
The last question is:
Q 4 ) Dear Bhagavan, you have often said
that we are able to become a better
human being through deeksha no matter
whether we are a Christian, a Muslim, a
Buddhist etc. Some do not feel any bond
to and donīt have a relationship with
any religion but they can immediately
feel the divine revelation when they see
the nature, a tree, a flower, a
mountain, the starry sky etc. How can
they develop any personal bond?
Bhagavan:
..?..How can they develop a personal
bond...did you mention the divine there?
A: Yes
Bhagavan:
So, I do not know what their divine is,
it could be a tree or nature, or a
flower or the universe. It's between you
and the divine. If the divine is a
tree, then you respond to the tree,
that's all. May the tree give you
awakening and if your divine is the
universe, you can talk to your divine.
And with the divine, you will awaken.
That's all, it's between you and the
divine. Because Christians may have a
bond with Christ, Moslem with Allah,
Hindu or Buddhists accordingly...) But
since you say you only respond with
nature and the divine - may the divine,
may nature give you the awakening.
Whatever personal bond you want to have
with nature or the divine is within you
and the divine.
I will be a bystander watching the show.
The nature gives you the awakening.
Thank you so much, dear Bhagavan.
During the last skype you had told us
that our special task in Switzerland is
to bring about more harmony into the
world. Therefore we are asking you for a
blessing today to strengthen the harmony
in the Swiss Oneness community. And
please can you also give us a strong
blessing for the time until the 10th
April when we will meet you next time.
And now we are saying thank you SOO much
for spending your time with us and for
sharing your wisdom and giving all those
answers to us. We are very grateful to
you. Namaste.
Bhagavan:
I give you a very strong blessing for
harmony in the Oneness community in
Switzerland. And all the blessing for
you until next time.
So love you all. We now move into a
small meditation.
Namaste.
Meditation.
Bhagavan:
Namaste.
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