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Broadcast with Sri Bhagavan to
Stockholm, Sweden 12/20/09
Video:
http://vimeo.com/8310458
Q1: There is so much pain and sorrow
surfacing in me right now, that my daily
life is becoming very difficult to
manage. And at the same time it takes so
much more effort now to dissolve the
pain by experiencing it, compared to a
year ago after my Level 1 course. How
can I make the act of dissolving the
pain by experiencing it easier, more
effective and more powerful?
Bhagavan: In Oneness, you've got to
remember, that only up to a point there
could be effort. If effort continues,
then nothing would happen. Things must
happen automatically, they must become
effortless. Experiencing suffering is an
effortless act. If you apply effort, you
will not be able to do it at all. Effort
is only slightly becoming aware, "yes I
have this pain" and maybe bringing in
some teaching. That's why I often give
an example of a snake in the room and
you are very scared. And then you go out
and get a torchlight, going out and
getting a torch is the effort, and then
putting on the switch is the effort.
Once the light comes out of the torch,
you see it's only a rope and not a
snake. So it does not take time, energy
or effort. The fear is just gone.
So in all of oneness activities, only up
to a point there is effort. Beyond that
it must become effortless. Now, how does
it become effortless? That is where
Grace comes in, your connection with the
Divine, without which you can not do it.
So up to a point it's OK. You try and
you put in some effort. And then there
comes a point when you realize, nothing
is happening. You're trying to
experience suffering, nothing is
happening. You're trying to stay with
it, nothing is happening. That is the
point when we say, you've got to
surrender. Surrender is not something
very cheap or something slavish. You
just realize you cannot do anything.
When you can not do anything, what do
you do? You've got to seek help. So you
must have a connection with the Divine.
So take a blessing or invoke the Divine,
and then you'll see what happens. It
just begins to happen. It has to be
effortless. If there's effort, it is not
oneness. And it naturally happens if you
invoke the Divine or if you can not do
it, ask some powerful blessing giver to
give you a blessing. It will start off.
That's why the blessing is so important.
Without the blessing you can not get
there. Because your trying is what is
destroying it.
When you try to experience, you can not
experience. It's just not possible. So,
you try and you fail, that's when you
hand over. Then you'll see it happens
very beautifully. And once it starts
happening it gives you such joy and
powered by joy it goes on automatically.
It becomes a habit after some time. But
at least initially, you'll need the help
of the Divine or the blessing.
So that's the answer for the first
question. We move on to the second
question.
Q2: I have been trying to set right my
relationship with my father for several
years now, yet I still think he is an
idiot. One part of me does not seem to
like him or want to have anything do
with him, at the same time another part
of me feels guilty about this and bad
for giving him more pain than he is
already carrying and this part feels
compassion for him, which I'm not able
to express in his Presence. Please help.
Bhagavan: Now as I'm talking to you,
taking on your questions or telling you
certain things, or we're going to
meditate together or I'm going to give a
blessing; all this is Level 3. Now in
Level 3, I would be giving you more
clarity on teachings which have been
taught to you already. Because very
often after a level 1 and a level 2, you
go home with a lot of wrong concepts and
that has to be corrected. So I'll be
trying to give you a clear understanding
of the teachings, that is level 3, and
also give you new teachings as we go
along, once the foundation has been
layed.
Now let us look at this question. Please
repeat the question again.
OK. So, now if you look into this
question you can get a clear
understanding that whoever asked this
question has really not understood
oneness. Now for example, he calls his
father an idiot and he wants that to be
changed. That is not oneness. And then
he's struggling to be compassionate to
his father. That is not oneness. What
exactly is the oneness teaching? Now, he
thinks his father is an idiot. Oneness
does not say change your opinion about
your father or do something about it,
none of these things. Oneness does not
say "change", because oneness says
"change is impossible". The fundamental
teaching is "when the impossibility of
change strikes you, like a ton of
bricks, then something happens". What
you must realize is, "Look, I'm not able
to change my opinion about my father.
This is what I think of my father, that
he's an idiot". So all that you could do
is, become intensely aware of what's
going on inside, namely, you think your
father is an idiot. That's all there is
to oneness.
Like a snake which is focused on the
prey, this is not indifference, but be
fully focused on what is happening
inside. You're thinking he's an idiot,
that's all there is to it. Out of that
intensity, that awareness, there arises
action, about which we won't talk.
There's no need to talk about that,
because that again becomes a concept.
You just act. You can not call it right
action, you can not call it wrong
action, you can not call it good action,
you can not call it bad action. It is
just action. If just being action, it is
perfect, no matter what the consequences
are. It's just action.
You don't go back and say "I should've
behaved like this, I should've behaved
like that", no. Now what's happening is
there's a reaction. A lot of psychology
has got in, a lot of philosophy has got
in, oneness teachings which has been
understood differently has got in and
now you're trying to act from that,
which is no action at all. You must act
from the intensity of awareness. In your
case it is, you think your father is an
idiot. That's the only truth. How could
you change the truth? We're not asking
you to change the truth at all. That is
the truth for you at that moment. You
think he's an idiot. That's all. Be
intensely aware of it. Not being
indifferent, but be very, very clear.
Just be focused on it and see what
happens.
The same thing, you're trying to be
compassionate to him, there's a conflict
inside. So all that you must become
aware of is that conflict. You're trying
to be compassionate. You're not really
compassionate, you're trying to be
compassionate. You feel a little sorry
for your father and there's a conflict.
Become aware of all these things, that
little compassion, feeling sorry for
your father and having a conflict. That
is the content of the mind at that
moment of time. The mind is like a
river. It's flowing all the time, it is
changing every moment. Different
personalities are emerging, they're
arising and they're ceasing. There's
emotions that arise and they cease. It's
like a vast ocean where the waves are
coming up and going down. Simply
happening all the time.
You can't control it, you can not
contain it. Something which is living,
which is dynamic, how can it be
controlled or contained? You can only be
aware of it, you can be alive to it. If
you're aware and alive, then things
happen naturally. You don't need a moral
code, you don't need an ethical code,
you don't need some scripture to guide
you. Nothing is required. You don't need
a book on philosophy or psychology,
nothing. Simply action arises. That is
the book you've got to read. The most
important book is the book of your own
life. What is going on there. That's the
most interesting story you could ever
hope to hear. It will be just
fascinating and as you read that book
there is joy, there is bliss. Everything
starts coming to you.
So the content of your mind, the most
terrible things - even to use the word
terrible is wrong. If you say it's
terrible, it's bad, it's good, then
there's no more awareness. You're
judging it already. And when you start
judging, the mind is at full play,
because the mind is nothing but the flow
of thought. Thought, being measurement,
is all the time comparing and then
there's no awareness at all. When only
comparison stops, when measurement
stops, there is awareness. And awareness
is the first step and the last step.
There's nowhere to go. Awareness is not
going to take you anywhere. Please
understand that. Awareness is the be all
and the end all. Just to be aware is to
be awakened. You should not think you
will become aware and then you're going
to reach somewhere. That is not oneness.
You should not think "Oh, I now got a
tool called awareness, I will use it and
I'll become this, I'll become that".
There's nothing to become. All that is
possible is sheer awareness. If you are
aware you are in heaven, that's all. We
need not describe it.
It's the first step, it's the last step.
There's nowhere to go. You should not
think "Oh, it's the first step,
therefore I'm going to land up
somewhere". No. First step is the last
step. Finished, it's over! There's
nothing else to life than just being
aware. It can be awareness about the
tree there, or about the bird there, or
about your wife nagging, or seeing
what's inside. There's no difference at
all. If you could be aware of your wife
nagging you, or your husband nagging
you, whatever the case might be, it's
the same thing as listening to a bird or
the flowing water.
There's no difference at all. It's sheer
joy. It's all over. Whereas you're
trying to get somewhere. The teachings
are being applied, you're trying to make
use of it, you're trying to get
somewhere. There's nowhere to go! How
long is this going to go on? Trying to
get somewhere? The content is never,
ever important. It can be anything. Are
you just aware of it? That's all that
matters. And there you would need the
blessing. You certainly need Divine
help, at least in the initial stages, to
become aware. Thereafter it becomes
quite easy and then the Presence starts
moving in. And once the Presence is
there, there's only awareness, that's
all.
The Presence is awareness. As you get
closer and closer to the actual event
which is happening inside you and
awareness increases, the Presence also
would increase, that is the Divine. And
there comes a point when the Presence is
fully there. Awareness is full. The
Presence is full. And with that, it's
all over. At that point you can say, "I
am God", because you become the
Presence. So, awareness means, something
is happening there and you're getting
closer and closer and closer. At the
first level, it is contemplation. At a
deeper level, it is meditation. At the
final stages, it becomes greater and
greater awareness. When awareness is
total, the Presence is total, you are
One with God.
So, we'll go into greater depths in
future Skypes. So now we move on to the
third question.
Q3: When can all we blessing givers come
to India to meditate in the temple and
deepen our process and what can we do to
help you in your intention?
Yes, you could start coming from
February, because in the month of
January, we'll be having huge crowds
here. But if we still find that we're in
a position to invite you, we'll send you
an invitation and you could start coming
in January. But as of now, it looks like
February. You're all free to come and
meditate in the temple. Because the
temple here or the World Oneness Center
is intended to alter our planetary
energies. One is, the building itself
would do that, plus when people meditate
there we'll be helping the process a
lot. So, you're most welcome to come
here. That's one thing.
What I would want from you is, quickly
we must produce a lot more trainers. A
LOT more trainers must be produced, who
in turn would produce a lot more
blessing givers, because only then we
can make 2012 possible. We need large
numbers of people because unfortunately
we have lost some very valuable time,
and recent events in the movement has
shaken the faith of people. It's very,
very difficult to build up faith. The
faith has been shaken because of the
events. So, we have to make up for lost
time. It's a very unfortunate thing.
So, for example, I consider 2012 itself
to be a phenomenon, not only our
movement is the phenomenon, but the
entire 2012 itself is a phenomenon.
There are a lot of movements working for
that and unfortunately some of the
movements have perished. Because of very
similar events, they have died a
premature death and some have become
weak.
Now this has happened to our movement.
Wherever there's a front, there's a
back, wherever there's a high, there's a
low. So whenever you try to create
order, disorder also automatically
emerges. It's nobody's fault. It very
naturally happens. But somehow we have
to tie out the crisis. Unfortunately it
has come this way and it is in fact
shaking the faith of people. So we are
losing valuable time. So, our only way
to counter that is, in the next two
years we'll produce a lot more trainers
and a lot more blessing givers. That's
the way to counter that.
So I hope all of us could work together.
It's not just me working or someone's
working, all of us have to work
together. It has to be a massive human
effort if 2012 to be possible and I hope
we can all cooperate and work together
very, very fast. I would request you to
become trainers as quickly as possible
and start producing as many blessing
givers as you could possibly, so we'll
be ready by the end of 2011. By the end
of 2011 itself we'll be able to see
things start happening, that will give
us the confidence. And in 2012 we should
be ready. Because we should start right
from January itself, and in the month of
December we'll be fully active all 31
days.
I can tell you one thing, that 2012 is
not a figment of some imagination or
some hallucination. We do work with
special groups in India, when you come
to India you can see 2012 is happening.
People are becoming awakened in
something like 6 hours. And the actual
turning point is less than 3 minutes.
The great buddhist teacher Padmasambhava
who brought Buddhism from India to
Tibet, he said "when the iron birds fly
in the air, man will be awakened in less
than 3 minutes". We see it actually
happening. When you come here, when you
go to India, we'll actually show you.
You can see for yourself how this is
happening. So 2012 has begun. Only thing
is we should build up the requisite
numbers by 2012. And I'm sure that we're
all going to cooperate and make it
happen.
So the three questions I think have been
answered, so now shall we go into
meditation for three minutes?
Sweden: Yes Bhagavan.
Bhagavan: Yes, so thank you so much.
Next time we'll be going for deeper and
longer meditations as we prepare
ourselves. So we now move on to
meditation now.
*Meditation*
Shanti, shanti, shanti..
Bhagavan: Love you all! Love you!
Sweden: We love you so much Bhagavan!
Bhagavan: Namaste, namaste! Thank you so
much, thank you!
Sweden: Namaste! Thank you so much
Bhagavan!
Bhagavan: Thank you, thank you!
Sweden: Love you so much Bhagavan!
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