Web Darshan with

Shanghai, China 12/07/09

Question: Bhagavan, we have to do the courses locally, so how can we make sure we inherit the Oneness spirit and apply local wisdom and practices? We understand your vision is to do programs locally.

Bhagavan: Yes. We will begin to train you really intensely, and as we train you, you also bring the local wisdom and practices, and we will help you integrate that too. And after that you will conduct your courses without any interference from our side. So what will be the organizational structure, what will be the charge, is all completely your affair. We want give complete and total freedom to everybody on the planet, we don't want to be a controlling agency nor a spiritual hierarchy, and we want to give away everything we have.

That's what Oneness is supposed to do. Oneness is to set man totally and unconditionally free, so we are heading toward that direction. Right now we have some kind of control structure, which is not good for the work, this work is spiritual work, it needs freedom. And freedom is being curtailed, therefore the work are losing time. Therefore it's high time that people take over these courses, according to local wisdom and tradition.

So we are moving in that direction. Suppose you come from China, we will train you in Oneness, you can bring traditional wisdom or traditional knowledge, we will help you integrate it, and then you can go back to your own country and do the course yourself. That's the answer to the first question.

Question: After I came back from Oneness, I felt very much in the presence, but now I feel somehow stuck, so how shall I keep being in the presence and how can I keep on connecting with you?  When I connect with you I felt very happy. How shall I do in my daily life to keep on being in the presence, to keep on being connected with you?

Bhagavan: You must start with the external, that is to become aware of our bodily sensations, aware of what is happening in the external world, like physical sounds, physical sensations, and physical smells. In short it is the physical senses that you must become intensely aware.

Then we move inward, then you will see what's going on inside, which will lead to what we call the inner integrity. As you go deep inside yourself, you will actually discover who you are. Now who you are is actually very different from what you think you are.

Once you discovered who you are, the next step is to accept yourself as you are. The third step is to love yourself as you are. When that happens, the Presence automatically and very naturally answers to you. There are a few more steps to be taken, which I will be guiding you on the Skype.

So as you meditate along with me, you will progress very very fast, then you will be able to make it even before 2012, but a large number of people will be able to make it in 2012. What you need to do is to start the practice of inner integrity. I recommend starting with external awareness, then move to inner integrity. And I will further guide you to be in the Presence as clear as possible.

Question: So when you start to train the trainers to do all the courses locally, how often you will talk to the givers via Skype?

Bhagavan: Yes I will speak to you once in 15 days. And the courses will start at the end of February and the beginning of March.

Question: (That's wonderful.) Bhagavan, you said money does not go well with spirituality. But without money, how can the movement expand to benefit more people? Without market oriented approach, how can we make sure people get the best program?

Bhagavan: We are not against money as such. Money will be required for running the establishment, or required for running the mixer. I am only against spiritual work functioning as a corporate house and making a profit. I am not against making money, or against money itself. We are a spiritual organization, we are a group of monks, we have taken the vows of a monk. Monks have no business dealing with significance, with importance, with power, with money.

We must be free of all this craving. We do need money to survive, but why should we need more money than what's required? What do we do with that money? It wouldn't serve any purpose. All I am saying is: do not make any profit, just take enough for survival, and localize things so people can all time come to the program. 

I am told that going to Fiji cost anything between 10,000 to 12,000 dollars. People are complaining that it costs too much for them. 2012 is the collective time that mankind must awake; we must move into the highest state of consciousness, otherwise the planet will be destroyed. In another 50 or 75 years the planet will be gone. So we have to speed up. This kind of charges, this kind of courses where people must come to India, to Italy or to Fiji, must go. How is the work going to explode? They should be empowered to initiate people, they are not being allowed to initiate until December the third. So how can the movement be built up?

We don't have much time left. We don't have another 20 years, we just have two more years Sir. Money is one hurdle, the other is asking people to come to the process in India, or to go to Italy, or to Fiji, this way it's not going to build up. This external body, we don't need it, so it has to be removed. 

That's why I said by saying free the courses. I am not saying don't take money at all, I am saying go take the money necessary to run the courses, we need money to survive. It's not you. You can charge. You can do whatever you want with money, because you must survive, but we should not function like that because we are monks sir. We are becoming more and more like a corporate house, this cannot go on. That is what I said.

Question: Bhagavan, do you want to share with us your vision for oneness movement from now to year 2012? So the givers in China would like to share your vision, and your priority for the Oneness movement.

Bhagavan: The 2012 is all about a change of perception. 2012 is an energy shift which I am not bringing about. That is a natural event because you know that the sun, the earth and the center of the galaxy will almost come into a line. When this happens, it is going to be a huge energy shift. We are going to make use of the energy shift to bring about a change in human perception.

That is, we will end this alienation between man and man. Today we feel separate, that will soon be gone if we make use of all these energies. How? Because large number of people should go into higher states of consciousness, the others will naturally move to that state. We don't have to work with the whole humanity. That's one thing we are not going to do.

China is spiritually very very evolved for the simple reason that China is going to become the world's number one country much sooner than most people expect. Much much sooner than most people expect. So it's going to be the world's leading country, the world's number one country. Now along with that, also if the consciousness of the country will go up, you can imagine what impact it will have on the planet. The population, the wealth, the military might, the power, as world's number 1 nation. An ancient civilization, almost an unbroken civilization, tremendous wisdom. That wisdom will surface as you grow in consciousness, you will discover your own ancient wisdom. That will come back. What is ancient wisdom? It is all about enlightenment, that's all! 

It will come back naturally. Imagine China is materially prosperous, and also spiritually very developed, what combination that is? What will that do to the planet? In India, there is a temple, a very ancient temple, where the whole world history is codified on the temple towers. It says just before the Golden Age arrives, it will be the yellow people. At that time they do not know about China, you know. But we have always known this as China. They are right on schedule. China will emerge, then it will be the Golden Age. So it's very amazing. Even though it could be a communist country, many many changes are going to take place. People's perception, nobody can halt it, it will naturally change.

For example, if you look at how the Berlin wall collapse. About 60,000 of these Germans marched to the Hungary trying to meet the president. People are being shot dead. The guards are asking the local commander: "Sir, give the permission to shoot, and more troops, Sir" And he said: “Wait, I will talk to the president", and they ask the president, and the president says: "Wait, I will give orders." And he contacted the Soviet Ambassador, and the Soviet Ambassador says: "Wait" He contacts Gorbachev, and Gorbachev does not answer the phone back. He listens, but does not answer. So the ambassador can not give orders, the president can not give orders, the commander can not give orders, the guards can not give orders, so they let people to cross over.

The question is: How did people do it? How strange it is that they were taking to the heights to cross over the border. At what stage the commander did not act, did ask for higher authority? And Gorbachev did not respond. Much later Gorbachev says: "Well, I believe in democracy." Something happened to him.

There was this cold war meeting between Reagan and Gorbachev going on. At that time there was a person called Tony Robbins. He is a very close friend of mine, he works with me in Oneness. So He was asking Gorbachev: "At what point did your perception change?" Because they were both fighting each other like anything. Reagan said to him: “Your state is an empire of evil.” Gorbachev replied: "Yours is an empire of evil." Three of us are only accusing each other. Then suddenly Gorbachev got up, walk up and down. Then president went up to Gorbachev and said: “Gobi, let us open the gate."  According to Gorbachev, Gorbachev told this to Tony Robbins, and he told it to me, that he said at that moment something happened in his head, and he said: "I can believe this man." The next few months, the cold war ended. So things changes, and he changes.

So there is going to be a massive pouring of energy in 2012, much much more than 1989, people's perception is going to change. And it can be used for any purpose. Our purpose is for spiritual growth, so we can be better human being, so we can end this alienation. We become close to one another. Between husband and wife there should be closeness, between parents and children there must be closeness. Between people and friends there must be closeness. Between government and people there must be closeness. We must feel oneness. We should surpass all these divisions, and national divisions. All these look barbarous to us to say "I am an Indian" "I am a Pakistani." that will look very barbarous. To say "I am a Hindu.You are a Christian." will look barbarous. All these will naturally fade away, and we need oneness. Because people will discover their true nature, and their true nature is Oneness. That is what's going to happen, and we have to help with that process.

Certainly China has to play a very very important role. As I told you today with the Indian temples that they are going to be the harbinger of the new age. You can see that China is racing ahead much much faster than everybody believes. Along with that, I also believe there will also be a change in consciousness. If you work with these people, it's going to happen. That's what I see in the future. Yes.