Q1: To see what is there give me suffer.
You teach us that suffering is in fight
and I know that the solution is in let
myself go. What is most difficult to do
is to give up, because fear is very
powerful. Can you help me?
Bhagavan: You say that what you see is
causing you suffering, that's what you
say. That means you're not seeing at
all. Because, to see is to be free,
You're commenting on what you're seeing.
Continuous running commentaries is going
on on what you're seeing. That
commentary IS the suffering. But if you
really see, there is only seeing. How
can there be suffering? There's just the
seeing, that's all. The fact is you're
not seeing. You are saying that you see
is causing your suffering. That means
you're not actually seeing what is going
on. There is only the mental commentary
that is going on which is suffering. So
you've not got the hang of seeing. What
you need a very powerful deeksha, Then
you'll be able to see. To see is to be
free. I will help you in that.
Q2: Sri Bhagavan, in many lectures you
gave us you clearly explained us about
the mind and how it works. Can you talk
some more in details regarding the
consciousness? What is it? How it works?
Bhagavan: Consciousness is always the
witness. It never participates in any
action, but witnesses the action that is
taking place. Suppose you are talking to
somebody, you are playing with somebody.
Consciousness is witnessing it. Suppose
you fight with somebody, it is
witnessing it. For this you have to be
awakened to see how it is actually
happening. Without awakening, no amount
of explanation can really help you.
To help you with this regard, tomorrow,
we will be uploading on our website an
interview taken at the Oneness
University with an awakened westerner.
He's from Holland. He's a Oneness person
who is now awakened. For the first time,
we've been able to record a westerner.
We have Indians who have been recorded,
but the language is difficult for you.
Somehow When you listen to it I think
you understand what is living from the
state of the witness. Somehow, we have
managed to record a Westerner who is
awakened. More and more people are
becoming awakened. You could probably
get an understanding of what it is like
to be in the witness state.
Q3: Bhagavan can tell us about the
Antaryamin?
Bhagavan: The Antaryamin is the same as
a PC (computer) which is networked to
all other PCs. Let' say you are standing
in the midst of a road and you want some
car to stop and give you a lift. And
then you ask your ...I wish that car
would stop and give me a lift. This
Antarymin is connected to the ant in the
one who is driving the car. ANd if you
powerfully request or pray to the
Antaryamin, This anat. will activate
that an. in that driver that is driving
the car and he will have a feeling as he
passes by that he must stop the car. And
the car will stop the car and you will
get into the err.
Similarly, you go into a bank to get a
loan. You ask your Antaryamin, "I want
this bank loan." This Antaryamin will
talk to the other's Antararyamin.
Somehow he'll feel, "I must give that
loan." That is how the Antaryamin
functions. Each of us have an
Antaryamin. When we say I have the
Antaryamin, it means your Antaryamin has
got connected to all the other
Antaryamin. The other person might not
know, but then this a will talk to that
a. and the a will infect express the way
you want things to happen.That person
will say, I must help him. I must do
this to him." He won't even know why
he's doing that. But this Antaryamin has
spoken to that Antaryamin and that
Antaryamin will oblige this Antaryamin.
That is how it functions.
In deep mystical states, we observe two
Antaryamins talk also. For example one
Antaryamin might say, "This chap is
actually a useless fellow. He's all the
time in the hot sun." That was the
comment of one Antaryamin to another
Antaryamin and the other Antaryamin
said, "This fellow is so useless, he's
not at all going out anywhere." So
Antaryamins also do talk. Your
Antaryamin is your Antaryamin and the
other persons's Antaryaim is their
Antaryamin and they sometimes do
converse also. It's a very strange
phenomenon. So maybe I'll talk more
about it later. This much we can talk
for now. The Antaryamin will help you to
become awakened very fast and it is this
Antaryamin that is involved in the
deeksha process also.
Meditation 5 minutes and closing.
