BHAGAVAN: Namaste.
MODERATOR: Namaste. Thank you for
joining us.
BHAGAVAN: Love you all! So nice to see
you.
MODERATOR: Bhagavan, thank you very much
for honoring us with this Skype. We're
all very enthusiastic to hear, and we're
very, very happy. Our hearts are really
full of the presence. Thank you very
much for joining us.
BHAGAVAN: I'm also very, very happy.
Shall we go ahead with the questions?
MODERATOR: Would you like me to read
the questions?
BHAGAVAN: Yes, yes.
Q1: The Oneness movement contends that
enlightenment is a neurobiological event
and that the blessing helps us to
achieve that state by de-stressing the
parietal lobes of the brain and
stimulating the frontal lobes. The
question is: explain the neurobiology of
this process and what other physical
changes take place in the body on the
path to awakening?
BHAGAVAN: What happens is what we call
the chakras, they start rotating faster.
To become awakened, the chakras must
rotate at the speed of 33,000 times per
second. Now, they're basically ductless
glands. But, if seen mystically, they
appear as weaves. Now, the kundalini
flows into these chakras and they start
rotating. What happens is seven areas
of the brain actually get activated or
de-activated. The brain could be divided
into seven areas which could either be
activated or de-activated. I would no go
into that great depth because you must
have a very good idea of the brain
itself. But, the symptoms are many, and
it is not that one person must have all
the symptoms. You might have one
symptom, or two symptoms, or you may not
have many also. But there are a variety
of symptoms.
For example, the eyes could slightly
move apart. If you want to take a
picture before your awakening and
afterwards, there could be a slight
movement of the eyes, a little spread
apart. The way you would listen to
sounds is very different, and the way
you taste is very different, and the way
you smell is very different. For
example, if there are combinations of
five, six tastes, you would pick up a
single taste at a time, and you may not
taste the other component. Similarly,
with smells. Suppose you combine two,
three smells, you would pick up only one
smell. So, many strange things could
happen. And, also, you could develop
bumps on the head. That is possible.
Like Moses' horns. You could develop
them. And, you would also find some
colorful bumps on your chest, as though
it was a garland or a necklace, or
something like that. The wrist could
turn very differently.
The skin could become very, very smooth.
So, many, many things happen, but, we
cannot say, "This must happen." So, one
or two, or many of these symptoms could
accompany the neurobiological change.
But, we should not focus so much on
that. That's no so very important. What
will happen, will happen. For example,
some of you might have seen I think on
our website, just posted I think
yesterday, Edwin's experience.
(http://www.onenessuniversity.org/HTML/experiences_awakening.html)
He's a fully awakened person from
Holland. You'll find that he experienced
a cracking at the back of his head when
the kundalini got awakened after the
deeksha was given. So, it need not be
the same for every person. It could be
very, very different. Maybe some people
could become half female and half male,
anything could happen. Many, many
things. So, let's not worry about that
right now. When things happen, I'll
start explaining about it. So, we'll
move on to the second question.
Q2: OK. The second question is, as a
new deeksha giver I have some questions
about who I can give deeksha to:
A.Is it OK to give deeksha, either hands
on or by intent, to people who are
mentally disabled or brain damaged, for
example, autistic or cerebral palsy
children who have little response to the
world. Can this help them or, are we
interfering in what is a karmic
condition?
B. Do we ever need permission to...
BHAGAVAN: We'll go step-by-step first.
So, the deeksha could be given to
anybody and everybody. There is no need
to seek one's permission if it's going
to be an intent deeksha. It could very
well be given to autistic children and
retarded children. And we have a lot of
cases where consistent deeksha giving
over a period of six months has resulted
in the reduction of autism, and mentally
retarded children have had tremendous
improvement in their abilities and
capacities. So, it really works for all
kinds of people, and if you are a very,
very powerful deeksha giver, you could
pull out people from depression. But,
you must be a powerful deeksha giver for
that, or you must be a group of deeksha
givers who are giving the deeksha. It
really works for all kinds of people,
and you could use it without the
permission. Obviously, they cannot give
you permission also. But, for it to be
effective, you must also know what is
the person's karma. That karma must be
what (recording garbled) faster...
We have some difficulty explaining
to westerners how to track down this
karma because you must first believe in
karma, and as a way you must talk to
AmmaBhagavan, and we will tell you what
is the person's karma, what happened in
the person's past life, why this is
happening, and what should be done. It
is very easy to educate Indians on that,
but we have to find some way of
explaining it to the western people.
Then they can identify the karma. See,
the karma is handled, and then you give
a deeksha, it's going to be a sure hit.
For example, this person could've done
something in his past life. Let's say he
has deprived some people of something,
and therefore this is happening.
Maybe, if you can take that child to
some people and their parents could do
something. Like, for example, a
gentleman came to us many years ago and
he said, "It looks like my son is going
to lose his eyesight in about a week's
time. The doctors are saying it is
completely incurable." We found in his
past life this man had deprived many
people of their eyesight. So, we told
him -he happened to be a very wealthy
man-"If you would go to all the
hospitals in your area, where people
with eye problems are there, and pay off
all their bills, and then take a
blessing, you are likely to be cured."
And, this man went around every hospital
in the city, eye hospitals, and paid off
the bills of all the patients there, and
then he took a deeksha. And the son,
it's quite a few years now, the sight is
intact. So, you must identify the karma
and then you'll get very, very good
results. So, we move on to the second
question.
Q3: so let's go to C. I offered to give
my sister deeksha, she said, "I have
looked into deeksha on the internet and
on the surface it seems a wonderful
gift. But, there are reports of negative
emotions and depression as a result of
receiving this, and therefore, I would
rather not." Could you comment on this
please?
BHAGAVAN: Yes. This is something like
homeopathic medicine. Sometimes, certain
conditions are triggered before the
healing occurs. So, in a few instances,
the negative emotions and feelings could
probably emerge. But then, if you are
patient for sometime, you'd be
completely cured. There could be a
slight deepening of the crisis before
everything is cleared up. But, one
should not fear that, one should go
ahead with it. Next question please?
Q4: On one of the DVDs you said that
Oneness is a continuation of the work
started by Christ, two thousand years
ago, that was aborted. I would like to
ask: A. Please explain what aspects of
Christ's work Oneness is actively
bringing forth?
BHAGAVAN: The deeksha. What Christ was
doing was giving the deeksha and that's
what has now come back. That's the
answer for that question. The second
question?
Q4B: And B, does this mean that Oneness
is actively preparing us for some form
of ascension as exemplified by Christ?
Will we be able to do miracles as Christ
did?
BHAGAVAN: Yes, it is already happening.
It's already happening. People are doing
miracles. People are moving into higher
states of consciousness. It has started
happening and it has been happening for
quite some time. Now it's accelerating
very, very fast. It's going on right
now. People are becoming awakened and
we'll be loading a lot them on our
website. As I said, we've already
loaded Edwin's awakening. We'll soon be
loading other people's awakening
experiences. People are getting
awakened. They're moving into higher
level of consciousness. I would call it
the ascension; and miracles, I don't
think you would count them at all. You
find lots of people doing miracles, not
one or two, but quite a number of them.
Amazing miracles are happening, not just
in India but in other parts of the world
also. Everybody is doing miracles. It's
something like that now. The next
question?
Q5: Though Christ was one with the
Heavenly Father, he still related to him
through prayer. How do you explain this
apparent paradox?
BHAGAVAN: We believe that we exist in
twenty-one realms, sometimes almost at
the same time. Now we have the seven
chakras, we have seven chakras below the
body, seven above, and each of them
represents a realm of consciousness. By
increasing the speed of any particular
chakra you could enter that realm of
consciousness. Now, great beings like
Christ, they simultaneously exist in
several realms of consciousness: the
highest and the earthly realm. So they
could also move into lower planes and
come out in case they would want to help
somebody. So the Christ who is on the
earthly realm could obviously talk to
himself in the higher realm, and when he
does that, he would obviously refer to
him as his father, though it is himself
only. For example, you will be able to
see yourself, if you activate your
kundalini that you are in higher realms
of consciousness. You'll be amazed but
that being will be somebody to whom
you'll pay obeisance and you would be
very reverential. But who is it?
Yourself. You can verify it at your own
level. It's possible, all these things.
So obviously, Christ is only one. But
then the one whom he's worshipping is
himself. How would he worship him? He
would see himself as the Father. And so,
it would be for any incarnation for that
matter. So, one who knows these things,
it's no paradox. It's obvious and very
simple. But if you do not know that you
could simultaneously exist in several
realms of consciousness, then it becomes
a paradox. So, I think we're finished
with the three questions. Since we
finished very fast, shall we go for a
longer meditation of five or six
minutes?
