Sri
Bhagavan with Mexico 12/19/09
Video:
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmAW-DP2xs
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_JqvTOpPCU
Q1:
The first question Bhagavan, regarding
the relationship with my parents. Why is
it that sometimes I feel that I have
healed a lot there and afterwards
situations happen where I realize there
is still a lot more to heal, as if I
were going backwards instead of forward.
What can I do, Bhagavan?
Bhagavan: Life is relationship. It’s
something which is very alive. We are
not dealing with some dead past here. So
what we must understand is, when we talk
of relationship with your parents, it
does not mean that you’ve done some work
on that and that it has been healed.
It’s not like that. The teachings must
be correctly understood.
So
what it means is that you have become
alive to that problem. The problems are
there, but people are not aware of them,
people are not alive to them. By this
awareness we don’t mean simple
knowledge. It’s like holding a snake in
your hands. It’s very intense. So that
kind of holding, that kind of awareness,
we’re talking about. When you hold
something like that, it heals. It does
not mean it’s gone forever. It could
very well come back, if you lose your
level of awareness.
So the
more you’re in your level of awareness,
healing is in place. It’s alright. But
the moment you slip from awareness, it
comes back. It’s not that there’s been a
disease and you’ve been healed and
you’re free. It’s not like that. It’s a
living thing. Relationship is a living
thing. Life is a living thing. And life
is relationship. No relationship, no
life. So it is there working all the
time. It’s coming up, it’s disappearing,
it will come back after some time. So it
will be bobbing up and down. Like so
many personalities are there inside you,
each personality takes turns and then
comes and stays and then goes away and
something else comes.
So if
you give away the concept of saying “I
am healed”.. No, it’s not like that. You
have to be intensely aware. Even if you
are awakened, if at some point of time
you lose your awareness, it will come
back. The only thing is an awakened
person would quickly get back. The
awakening will come back, the awareness
will come back, and he’ll get back to
his beautiful state. You could always
slip and fall.
Similarly here, you should not assume
that all is healed. No. Maybe the charge
is reduced a bit, that’s all. It would
come bouncing back if you’re not aware.
So you must learn to spend more of your
time in greater and greater awareness.
Maybe initially it could be for a few
minutes, then for a few hours, then for
a few days at a stretch. It goes on like
that. And then it’s almost permanent.
It’s almost permanent. It’s almost
permanent, whatever be the problem is
not going to trouble you at all.
Problems would be there, but they do not
trouble you when there’s awareness. When
there’s no awareness, they trouble you.
So you
can never say “Yes, I am now healed”.
Maybe temporarily you feel like that.
The charge is gone or something like
that. But then again it can come back if
there’s no awareness.
So
that’s the answer for the first
question. We move on to the second
question.
Q2:
Bhagavan, it is very difficult for me to
let go of my emotions, problems etc. I
feel there are things that stay back and
accumulate inside. Although, since I
took my first course in India, I have
become more conscious about my feelings
and I allow myself to feel more. I can
not experience things completely and
then I go into frustration. What can I
do, Bhagavan?
Bhagavan: So, we have never told you to
let go of your emotions, problems or
stop accumulating. Never at all. That is
not the teaching. All that we are
telling is, please realize, it is the
one mind, it is the ancient mind, that
is how it was for millions of years and
that is how it would be, unless and
until the human brain changes. It has
always been so.
The
other thing is, it’s not your mind or my
mind or his mind. It’s the one human
mind. So what we expect you to realize
or understand is, that it can not
change. That it’s impossible to change
whatever is there. The impossibility of
change must strike you like a ton of
bricks. That’s what we’re talking about.
We’re not asking you to change things at
all. We’ve been telling you that’s what
man has been doing for millennia, trying
to change. It’s like straightening a
dog’s tail. That cannot be done.
Now if
somebody’s going on trying to straighten
a dog’s tail, then he realizes it can
not be changed, then he gives up the
whole effort. When he gives it up, what
is there is peace, there is silence,
there is tranquility. That’s the absence
of conflict.
Similarly, the problem with you is, you
hear some teaching, you hear something
about an awakened man, you want to
become like that and you want to be free
of this or you want to have something,
you want to change this, and you’re
lost. That is not what the teaching is
saying. The teaching is saying “just be
aware of them”, that’s all. It does not
matter what you see or what is going on.
The
only thing that we want you to realize
is, it can not be changed. You cannot
give up those things. And strangely – we
do not want to emphasize this because
then it again becomes a concept – if you
stop trying to change, what is there is
peace. What is there is the absence of
conflict. What is there is joy. But if
you try to say “I’ll be free of
conflict, I’ll have peace, I’ll have
joy” – you will never have it until
doomsday.
It’s
all a question of giving up. Not
deliberately, not through effort. That’s
why we are saying “effortless effort”.
If you try giving up and then give up,
it is false. It’s just tricking you. The
mind is tricking you. It must drop like
a dry leaf. A dry leaf automatically
falls down.
Similarly, all that we want you to see
is that it’s impossible to change. It’s
your effort to change which is the
problem. A problem does not exist by
itself. It is your problem that you want
to change that. You want it to be
different. You’re saying “that is right,
this is wrong, it should be this, it
should be that”. That effort IS the
problem. Saying it is wrong, that is the
problem. Saying it is right, that is the
problem. Saying “I will change it”, that
is the problem. When you say “I must
change jealousy” – that only is
jealousy. If there’s no such effort,
there’s no jealousy also. Because
there’s no “somebody” who’s having
jealousy. You are equal to jealousy.
What is there is jealousy only. But it
appears as though you are suffering from
jealousy. And then you’re trying to be
free of it. How can you be free of it?
Because you are only jealousy. Not that
you are suffering from jealousy. If that
were the case, we could do something
about it. But that’s not the truth.
Therefore, it is just there. Why bother
about it?
It is
just there like the mountains are there,
the clouds are there. You can’t do
anything with the mountains, nor with
the clouds. Just watch them. Just watch
them, that is all there is to life. Just
mere watching. That is what we call
awareness. That is what we call
awakening. It’s not something to
achieve. No. Just realizing there’s
nothing to do.
We’ll
go into it deeper in later times. Now we
move on to the third question.
Q3:
The third question, Bhagavan, you tell
us that inner integrity is fundamental
for spiritual awakening, but when we
practise it, we see that we are the same
selfish person as ever. Then, how will
this practise help us contribute to
global awakening? If despite our
processes and teachings, we find more
and more ugliness. Reality shows us that
what we love today is what we betray
tomorrow. Then how do we stop this
ugliness from affecting our conviction
to move forward? How do we make our
heart flower instead of withering away?
Bhagavan: It’s the same answer as the
last question. Please read the last two
sentences about ugliness.
The
Guide
repeats the following: Reality shows us
that what we love today is what we
betray tomorrow. Then how do we stop
this ugliness from affecting our
conviction to move forward? How do we
make our heart flower instead of
withering away?
Bhagavan: You see, that exactly is the
problem. You’ve already condemned it as
ugliness and you’re saying it must
change. How do you go from here? These
are all the wrong questions.
All
that we are saying is, it’s neither
ugliness nor is it beautiful. That is
the problem. The mind which is divisive
in nature, because mind is nothing but
the flow of thought and what is thought?
Thought is measurement. What do you do
with measurement? You divide. It is
dividing it as the ugly and the
beautiful. It is saying, “This should
not be there. That must happen.”, that’s
where you’re caught up. It’s exactly
what the teaching is telling. Please
understand “the content is never
important”! Whatever be the content,
that is of no consequence. It is not
your content or his content. It is the
content of the collective consciousness.
It is just there.
All
that we are telling you is, please don’t
try to tamper with it. What is inner
integrity? Inner integrity is just
seeing what is there. Not trying to
condemn it as good and bad, right or
wrong or giving explanations saying “How
should it be in 2012? What should I
change? I’m still self-centered. I’m
still ugly. I’m still struggling”. Who
asked you to struggle? Who asked you to
change? Not at all.
All
that we are telling you is, please see
what’s going on. It’s very alive inside
you. From moment to moment, it is
changing. It is as alive as the ocean.
The waves are coming and going, up and
down, new waves, old waves go away.
Similarly, thoughts are coming, going
away, emotions are coming, they’re going
away, personalities are emerging, going
away. The whole drama of life is taking
place inside you. You’re nothing but the
Universe.
We’re
just saying, please don’t condemn it.
Don’t try to change it. There is
selfishness, yes. It is not your
selfishness, it’s not his selfishness.
It is selfishness. Suffering is not your
suffering or his suffering. Suffering is
suffering. Whether you have it or he has
it. We are all One. It is just there
with us for millions of years and it
will be so until the brain changes. So,
you are selfish, yes, that’s the truth.
You are rubbish pits and septic tanks.
It’s not that you are a rubbish pit or
somebody’s a septic, it’s what we have
in the collective consciousness. It is
there. We have gathered this over
millions of years. There’s nothing we
can do about it.
I’m
not asking you to become saints. Not at
all! I want you to become sages. Who’s a
sage? Who doesn’t think of right and
wrong. He just responds to life, that’s
all. He could be violent one moment, he
could be peaceful another moment. He
could help you one moment, he may not
help you another moment. He’s just
responding to situations as they arise.
This is perfect action. You can not call
it good action or bad action or right or
wrong. He just responds. And he does not
go back and think “whether I did the
right thing or wrong thing?”. He keeps
responding. He’s just seeing what’s
going on. The content is not important
for him.
So,
please, just look at your ugliness and
then soon you’ll stop calling it ugly.
It could look very beautiful also. What
looks beautiful could also look ugly.
Therefore, you must take a neutral
stand. Not that you take a neutral
stand, it must become neutral. Not that
you behave like an enlightened person.
No. You have to be enlightened. Not that
you behave like an awakened person and
you put an effort. If you do that, you
will never get there. The problem with
you is, you attend a Level 1, a Level 2,
this and that, and then all of that
becomes concepts. And then you want to
get “there”, you want to achieve that
and then you’re doomed.
There’s nothing to achieve. Nowhere to
go. Everything is perfect. See things
are perfect. And what would help you?
Inner integrity. As you go deeper and
deeper, it becomes easier and easier.
And it becomes very enjoyable because
conflict ceases. Because inner integrity
means just seeing what is there. You
don’t lie to yourself. It’s OK to lie to
somebody. But the problem is you’re
often lying to yourself. Non-stop lying
is going on to yourself. Because you do
not want to see what is there because
you think it’s ugly. Who said it’s ugly?
Some teacher? Some scripture? Well, you
have nothing to do with it. It’s just
there. That’s all. That is the truth.
How can you play with truth? You can not
tamper with truth. The truth is that.
Yes, you are selfish. But why do you
call it selfish, why do you name it
selfish, why do you say it’s bad? It’s
just there and you’re not in control.
So, if
you go deeper, it all becomes natural,
it all becomes automatic. There’s no
need to change. What happens then?
Please do it and see. If I tell you
something, you will again make it into a
concept. Just do it. It’s not difficult.
Start with your breath and go inside and
just see what’s going on. Don’t bring in
any scripture or any teaching. Not even
my teaching. Just see what is going on,
that’s all. You are the teacher. And the
teaching is yourself. It’s there right
inside you, the teaching. That is the
real teaching. What’s going on. Nothing
more.
So, if
I give you a teaching and you make it a
concept, you’re not going to go
anywhere. I’m just giving you some help,
that’s all. Teachings must come from
inside, from your observation, from what
you see. Then you must speak it out.
Then you’ll see it has got power.
So,
more clarifications I think you can get
from Cristobal. He can help you out with
it, because he has had long sessions
with me, so he’ll be able to explain it
clearly.
So
shall we now move into meditation?
*The
audio from Mexico can not be heard in
this video*
Bhagavan: Love you all so much..
Bhagavan: Oh yes, oh yes. I’ll do that.
I’ll give them a powerful deeksha, while
we go into meditation. Yes..
*Meditation*
Shanti,
shanti, shanti..
Bhagavan: Love you all! Namaste! Thank
you! Thank you so much!
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