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December 1, 2009
Bhagavan Skype Meeting Japan
Question 1
Oya san shall we
start?
Ok, we’ll go to the
first question now.
What is going to happen
in 2012.
What is going to happen
in 2012 is a continuation of what
happened in 1989. That is, there will be
a shift in energy. This energy that we
call prahnic energy. There will be a
shift in prahnic energy.
Can you translate up
to that point?
When energies shift, we
can make use of it to move to higher
level of consciousness.
Please translate.
When we move to a higher
level of consciousness, we could bring
about a change of perception.
Translate.
When perception changes,
the world changes. I’d like to give a
story that I often keep repeating, which
illustrates this principle.
Translate
In Hindu scriptures, it
is said, in India, (…..?) There is a
story. One farmer selling his plot of
land to another. After some weeks the
second farmer discovers a pot of gold,
which he brought back and gave to this
man, the first man, saying: “I only
bought your plot of land, not your pot
of gold, please take it.” The first man
went home saying: “I also sold you the
pot of gold. I will not take it back.”
Then the two went to the king because
they could not solve the difference. The
king said, please come back after a
week. After a week when they went back,
the first man said: “I only sold you the
plot of land, give me back my pot of
gold.” The second one said: “No more,
when I bought the plot of land, I also
bought the pot of gold.” The king who
heard this was quite astonished. How in
a week their perception would have
changed. So the king said, let’s go to
Lord Krishna. They went to him and he
said: “It has come.” Meaning the new age
had come and people’s perception has
changed.
Please translate.
Yes, so we believe that
problems at the level of the individual,
problems at the level of the collective,
problems at national level, problems at
the global level, all arise because of
wrong perceptions. Wrong perceptions are
there, because we are functioning from a
lower level of consciousness. We
function from a lower level of
consciousness because energies right now
are pretty low. So in 2012, when the
energies change, we can make use of it,
that is if you have electricity you can
make use of it for whatever purpose you
want. Similarly, when energies change,
we could make use of it for changing
human level of consciousness. Along with
that, perception will change. Along with
the changes in perception, problems will
actually get dissolved. That is for
2012.
Please translate.
So, this our plan of
action. We have lost really valuable
time, we have fallen behind schedule.
Therefore, we want to dramatically
increase the Blessing Givers in the year
2010 and more so in 2011, and keep
training the Blessing Givers for 2012.
In 2012, starting in January, what we
propose to do is to create groups of
Blessing Givers, small, medium or big
size Blessing Givers all over the world
in every country. These Blessing Givers
could be trained to give deeksha to each
other in order that they can raise their
level of consciousness. We would also be
joining and meditating and you would
move into higher levels of
consciousness, which would lead you into
states say like Christ consciousness,
Buddha consciousness, Krishna
consciousness, whatever you want. They
will not all be the same, but there will
be a oneness to it. And when people move
into these states of consciousness, the
whole of humanity would also move to
higher level of consciousness. So all
these changes that we are now making, is
essentially to make up a loss of time
and to be ready for 2012.
Please translate up to
that point.
Yes. So, also most
important is, this phenomenon is born in
1989, for the phenomenon to be fully
powerful, deliver what it wants to
deliver, we have got to free it from our
own clutches. Which means, we must hand
it over to the people. People must be
empowered to the power of the phenomenon
and the teachings and knowledge must be
given to the people. It must become a
people’s movement, not controlled by a
group of people from India. It HAS to be
given away to the world’s people. They
are the heirs to this. It has to be
given away. Unless it is given away, it
will never achieve full power. That is
what we are trying to do. If we do not
do that, the phenomenon will not acquire
full power and 2012 may not happen. Only
if we give it away, this will happen.
Please translate.
Should we go to the
second question?
Question 2
Deeksha Givers would form
groups where they could move into higher
states of consciousness, meditating
along with us and we could have a map of
Japan. When they move into higher levels
of consciousness…
Deeksha Givers can form
into small groups of people.
After forming groups,
they can move into higher levels of
consciousness while meditating along
with me.
Translate
Yes. Now when you form
groups of people and meditating along,
deekshas given to the map will naturally
go to the people of Japan.
As we keep doing this,
when the year 2012 comes, it will be
very very powerful. That should help
shift the people of Japan into higher
states of consciousness.
Yes, that is the only
solution to the problem.
Now we move to the
second part of the question.
Yes. The teachings have
never changed. We have only given
additional teachings.
Please translate.
We have never said “put
in effort” nor have we said “don’t put
effort”. We have said it must be
effortless effort.
Please translate.
What was spoken in the
seminars is what we have always been
speaking.
Please translate.
Let me clarify further.
What I mean by effortless effort. You
are in a room and it’s a little bit dark
and you suspect there is a snake. All of
you may experience the same fear.
Translate.
Suppose somebody brings
along a torch, someone brings a torch
and puts on the torch. That is called
the effort part.
Please translate.
You bring a torch form
somewhere, focus the torch on the snake
and then you put on the switch. This
part is called effort.
Translate.
In the light of the
torch, you realize it not a snake but
only a rope.
Please translate.
The moment you see it is
a rope, it did not require time, it did
not require energy, it did not require
effort. This we call effortless.
Translate.
Bringing the torch part
is applied to the teaching. That is
effort. Then you just see what is there.
The seeing is called awareness. It
naturally happens. When the light is
there, it naturally happens. What makes
you see is the deeksha. Bringing the
torch is applying the teaching. The
actual “on” of the torch is deeksha and
you actually see. When you see…
Bringing the torch is the
teaching. Oning the torch is deeksha,
blessing.
So, when you “on” the
torch, deeksh is “on”, you are seeing.
You have seen the seer. It does not take
time, it does not take energy, it does
not take effort, it is automatic.
Nothing need be done. That’s what we are
talking about.
So the whole thing is
called effortless effort. So it is the
teaching plus spirituality. Spirituality
is deeksha. Oneness equals to psychology
plus spirituality.
If you remove
spirituality, it is simply psychology.
It does not work. So the teaching part
is the psychology part, the spiritual
deeksha.
Translate.
We move one to the
next part of the question.
Shall I give the
answer?
So deeksha actually works
on the brain. It activates certain parts
of the brain and deactivates other parts
of the brain. This is on the
neurobiological side.
When this happens, you
get connected with the Divine. You are
beginning to harness divine energies
like you harness wind energy or solar
energy.
Please translate.
These divine energies are
nothing but your own Higher-Self with
which you have lost contact.
Please translate.
Higher-Self. The Divine
is your own Higher-Self. You have a
Lower-Self and a Higher-Self. Your own
Higher-Self.
Once you get in touch
with you own Higher-Self, your
Higher-Self will set you right. Deeksha…
Please translate up to
that point.
Deeksha is coming from
your own Higher-Self. Deeksha is your
own Higher-Self trying to reach out to
your own Lower-Self. Deeksha is part of
yourself only.
Now we go on to the
next question.
Question 3
When we talk of
enlightenment, we are not talking about
a small group of people.
Shall I start?
When we speak of
enlightenment of the world, we are not
speaking about small groups of people or
large groups of people becoming
enlightened. We are talking of a massive
shift in human consciousness.
Please translate.
This is going to happen
through the actions of your own
Higher-Self.
I am only a facilitator.
Your Higher-Self is
already there. The phenomenon has
already taken birth in 1989. I am merely
a facilitator.
I think the questions
are over. I think..
Shall we go into
meditation for 3 minutes?
Love you Oya-san.
Love you all.
See you again.
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