- there after it has to be effortless.
So initially you set down in a
comfortable place, watch your breath,
take deep breath going to the abdomen,
slow it down, and then you begin to
watch your body sensations, and finally
move on to the mind. Up to that point
some effort is involved. There after it
should happen on its own. That is the
time when we call it “Contemplation”.
Then, after a point it begins to give
you joy. The very seeing gives you joy
that is Meditation. It is not that “you
meditate”, it starts happening. You must
know when to let go. The problem is: You
continue to put an effort, in which case
it becomes very painful - an exercise in
suffering.
Now, if any spiritual activity gives you
pain or suffering, please know that
something is going wrong. It has to be
joyful, it has to be painless, and it
should be automatic. So, the mind would
soon realize that there is an advantage
in this journey. It is very joyful and
very profitable. Then it lets go. It
must learn that, and it normally takes
about 21 days to unlearn its old habits
of putting an effort and try to judge
and condemn and evaluate. In the
forthcoming skypes I will guide you step
by step, and it will become quite easy.
I think you people have done some work
already and may be ripe for that. I
don´t see it will be difficult for you.
I have a feeling, especially with this
group as I am looking at you, I have a
feeling that you are very near the take
off point, so I will help you - don´t
worry.
Q2: - Thank you Bhagavan.
- During our lifetime some of us enters
and are stuck deeply in existential
crises with afeeling of deep separation
to the divine. Can you please help us
andwhat to do in these situations?
Bhagavan: - ”What to do” is the wrong
question. There is nothing to do. Just
keep quiet, theneverything will just
happen. The problem is that you keep
trying to do something. In theexternal
world you must do things. (Inaudible
sentence). It is very necessary. But in
the inner world, the problem is you
continuewith the same kind of effort. In
the inner world you must give up the
effort. It must become effortless,
automatic. So when existential sorrows
strikes you, it is like a huge tiger
coming at you. Instead of trying to
defend yourself from the tiger or
escaping the tiger, we recommend that
you jump into the mouth of the tiger -
and die. All what is required in the
inner world is death. You die to the
past, you die to the future, and then
obviously you stay in the present, and
all is over. Actually, in the inner
world we can move very fast, if you stop
doing anything. The problem is that we
all the time do something, there is not
work in the inner world. The only thing
I will say to you is: Please give up.
Maybe some change is required in the
brain, but that the blessing/ deeksha
will take care of. Your questions are so
profound that I feel that it will happen
soon. It is a very strange group. I
don´t think I have seen a group like
this. (Laughter) Of course one
thing: Doing nothing should not mean
indifference. Some time ago one of our
guides was talking with a big
Buddhist-teacher.
The teacher said: - “You guys seems to
bring about transformations in people,
they have been coming and telling me.
But how come, 30 years I have been
trying to do this.”The guide said: - “Yes
but you are not able to connect with the
people.” “What do you mean? In 30 years
I have practised zen and I am a very
detached person.” "You are not detached,
you are indifferent. Detachment happens.
But you are practicing indifference,
that is the confusion.”
The same here. Doing nothing does not
mean Indifference, but being very much
alive of what is going on inside. Its
the slight changes you do and you will
race off.
The third question, thank you.
Q3: - Beloved Bhagavan. Through some
strong past life experiences, I came in
touch with ancient pain and a very deep
split between the male and the female.
The loss of organic unity between the
masculine and the feminine. How is it
possible to heal this separation between
the female and the masculine, and could
you give a strong blessing for solving
it?
Bhagavan: - This is a pain which every
human carries with her- or himself the
only thing is that you seems to have
become intensely aware of it. Now in
India for example we believe that the
whole universe emerged from an
infinitely small point, we call it the
One, the nondual, the Advaita. From that
it became the two, three and the many.
We say that the One appears as the many,
we do not say that the One becomes the
many, but that the One appears as the
many. So a lot of divisons is taking
place during the creation and the
evolution.
We believe that by 2012, these divisions
are going to cease. What it means, is
that we will learn to live with
opposites, we will learn to live with
paradoxes. Wherever there is a front,
there must be a back, where there is a
high, there must be a low. Everywhere
you will find paradoxes, this is how the
universe is constructed and without
paradoxes there would be no creation at
all.
The question is can we learn to live
with these paradoxes? This is exactly
what we believe is going to happen year
2012. So I would say that your problem
could get resolved either if you got
awakened, now or in 2012, where I feel
that most people will become awakened.
So your problem is a very real problem
and a problem for everybody on the
planet. The only thing is that you seem
to be deeply in touch with it, and I
expect this to be overcome in 2012.That
was the answer to the third question.
All this questions I will go into much
deeper in the future skypes.
Q4: - We have some practical questions
about, how we can come to India to do
the Oneness Trainer-courses. There have
been many different sayings about it. We
would really like to be clear, there is
no level 1 and level 2 anymore, so what
is the condition to come?
Bhagavan: - If you want to become a
trainer, you must send an application
with either 25 blessing givers
sponsoring it, or 10 trainers. In case
in your country you don´t have that many
blessing givers or trainers, you could
contact us, then we will tell you what
to do.
And in case you have a national
coordinator, the application should be
forwarded to the national coordinator.
You must give it to him, and he will
send it to us. But in case the national
coordinator refuses to send the
application, you can contact us, and we
will have a three-party meeting:
yourself, the national coordinator, and
ourselves (=Bhagavan), and we will sort
out the issue. But I don´t see any
reason, why a national coordinator
should refuse to forward the
application, sponsored by ten other
trainers or 25 blessing givers. That is
all there is required.
At the level of your inner life there
must be a deep connection with people
around you. You must be concerned about
the human condition, and you must be
passionate about this change we are
talking about in 2012. This is the only
conditions we require. So you could
start applying to your coordinators. So
I don´t see any big problem in coming to
India to the training, which will start
in March 2010. These courses will be
started to train you as teachers - and
as trainers in the first place - , and
in 2014 you will be trainers in your own
right way. You will no more be called
”oneness trainers”, you will be ”a
teacher in your own right” by 2014. That
is what this program is all about.
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The next question, please.
Q5: - When can we come to you, we would
like to come as a whole group to see
you?
Bhagavan: - If you are not coming for
the Trainers’ Course, you can start
coming anytime. Just contact us and have
the reservations made and come any time
from now on. We are ready to receive
you. We welcome you.
Q: - Thank you. So we will be able to
meet you even if we are not?
Bhagavan: - Yes, of course. Yes, yes,
you will have access to me now.
Speaker: What a blessing. That was what
we have of questions right now.
Bhagavan: - So shall we have our three
minutes of meditation?
Speaker - Yes.
Bhagavan: - From next time it will be
for a longer duration, but this time it
is three minutes meditation.
(silence)
Bhagavan: - Love you all, love you so
much. See you soon. Namasthe.
Speaker: - Love you Bhagavan, see you
soon, namasthe